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Conan O’Brien Needs A Friend

Judd Apatow Returns

27 Oct 2025

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Chapter 1: What is Judd Apatow's new visual memoir about?

3.355 - 12.388 Judd Apatow

Hi, my name is Judd Apatow. And I feel very needy about being Conan O'Brien's friend.

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15.373 - 44.824 Conan O'Brien

Fall is here, hear the yell. Back to school, ring the bell. Brand new shoes, walking blues. Climb the fence, books and pens. I can tell that we are gonna be friends. Hey, Conan O'Brien here. Listening to the highly unedited, just off the cuff, Conan O'Brien Needs a Friend. We never stop and start again. No, this is definitely not a restart.

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44.844 - 47.148 Sona Movsesian

No, not at all. Sona, how are you? You doing good? I'm great.

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47.208 - 49.672 Conan O'Brien

And get it right or we're going to have to do it over again.

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Chapter 2: How did an audition for Jim Henson influence Judd's career?

49.692 - 50.754 Sona Movsesian

I am doing great. Thank you.

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50.914 - 52.877 Conan O'Brien

And how are you, Matt Gourley? I'm good, thanks.

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52.897 - 55.722 Matt Gourley

What's on your mind? Hey, I have something off the cuff. We haven't talked about this at all. I was going to get you there.

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55.742 - 60.43 Conan O'Brien

You don't have to cut me off and say, hey, I've got something. I was going to get you there with, hey, what's on your mind?

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61.861 - 76.135 Matt Gourley

On a recent episode, we talked about having a listener in high school that was listening during high school. And then Adam had mentioned that he knew someone that was in seventh grade, Giles, that listened. But we now have beat that record. A friend of mine, Jeremy Connor, has a son named George who loves the show.

Chapter 3: What books shaped Judd Apatow's understanding of life?

76.496 - 84.724 Matt Gourley

Started when he was eight, is nine years old now, and listens to the show and would love an autograph. Would you mind signing this poster? I'm not signing that. You have to.

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84.924 - 90.851 Conan O'Brien

No. He's eight. I want some scratch. I want my payday. This is so incredible.

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90.891 - 94.035 Matt Gourley

He's nine, but he started listening when he was eight. Oh, well, nine.

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94.055 - 96.178 Conan O'Brien

That's when the real cynicism kicks in.

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96.438 - 98.801 Matt Gourley

But this is for you, George. Thanks for listening.

99.823 - 106.271 Conan O'Brien

Yeah, of course. This is so nice. I love that I'm doing this. It's nothing more exciting to listen to a guy sign something.

106.411 - 106.912 Sona Movsesian

Scribbly.

106.952 - 109.275 Conan O'Brien

You can watch it on YouTube.

Chapter 4: How does Judd Apatow reflect on his childhood experiences?

109.295 - 110.937 Conan O'Brien

Yeah, okay. Squeak, squeak, squeak.

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111.052 - 116.222 Sona Movsesian

It's also very fascinating to watch someone sign a poster.

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116.303 - 119.228 Matt Gourley

And to hear someone comment on someone signing a poster.

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119.248 - 141.432 Conan O'Brien

Well, there we go. Yeah, that was a good use of our time. Listen, I don't understand how a nine-year-old, what will they connect to? We don't have any listeners over 14. That's not true. That's not true. I can beat all of this. There's a woman who is seven months pregnant and her child's been listening in utero to the podcast and hates it. Loathes it.

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141.833 - 142.515 Sona Movsesian

Kicks a lot.

142.575 - 142.855 Conan O'Brien

Yeah.

143.156 - 146.762 Sona Movsesian

Yeah. Kicks a lot when you're listening.

146.922 - 160.465 Matt Gourley

I'm just trying to imagine maybe it's they can tell that my friend Jeremy was saying that when this podcast gets edgy, it still has a kind of innocence at its heart. And he felt that that was OK for the child.

160.445 - 162.288 Sona Movsesian

I think maybe that's it.

Chapter 5: What insights does Judd share about collaboration in comedy?

217.791 - 223.117 Conan O'Brien

And what is that exactly? Well, it's when you have a dynamic insertion of a aforementioned ad.

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223.137 - 224.198 Matt Gourley

If you could expand on that a little bit.

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224.218 - 234.209 Conan O'Brien

Well, sometimes there's something that doesn't have an ad in it. And if it does have an ad, it's kind of flaccid and not moving. So I think, well, it should be moving or dynamic and it should be inserted. So it's inside.

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234.329 - 237.432 Matt Gourley

And that's how you explain this to the people that put it in the process.

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237.412 - 238.214 Sona Movsesian

I did.

238.234 - 242.584 Conan O'Brien

I called up some audio whizzes. Adam, jump in here for a second.

242.785 - 246.694 Sona Movsesian

No, don't jump in here. I'd like to hear you keep going.

246.795 - 253.21 Unknown

I'm actually still reeling from the fact that you said dynamic ad insertion just off the top of your head. I'm

253.19 - 274.306 Conan O'Brien

When you put the SiriusXM chip into my head, that was one of the words that was readily available. It's a dynamic ad insertion. It means, listen, if you can't handle what I'm saying or you can't understand it, don't attack me. I'm telling you in a very authoritative way that I had an idea about two and a half years ago that ads could be inserted dynamically.

Chapter 6: How does Judd Apatow describe his transition to directing?

275.588 - 283.698 Conan O'Brien

No, not the way that we're doing it. Okay. My idea was that it could be, what's a good word for constantly changing, always in motion, dynamic.

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283.718 - 284.098 Matt Gourley

Okay.

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284.118 - 291.986 Conan O'Brien

And that it could be put into something which would be, I don't know, inserted and that you could use it on an ad. I started that idea. Remember this?

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292.287 - 293.047 Unknown

Like it was yesterday.

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293.067 - 302.917 Conan O'Brien

I called you in and I said, I've got three words to say to you, dynamic ad insertion. You freaked out and then you left the room. And then the next thing you know, we were doing dynamic ad insertion.

302.977 - 307.787 Matt Gourley

We were the first to do it. I do apologize because you've clearly demonstrated your knowledge on this subject.

308.409 - 320.055 Conan O'Brien

It is a way that people can have their ads dynamically inserted. And it is one of the reasons that I think, I mean, this podcast used to make about, I think it was $300 a year.

320.116 - 320.777 Unknown

Yeah.

320.757 - 332.451 Conan O'Brien

But after dynamic ad insertion, we now make more than the gross national product of many countries throughout the world, including Switzerland and countries that border Switzerland.

Chapter 7: What are the challenges of directing a comedy film?

344.406 - 349.433 Conan O'Brien

I am. I remember the day I came in and I said, if we're using microphones, I want them to be Shure microphones.

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349.453 - 350.054 Sona Movsesian

Do you remember that?

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350.074 - 351.737 Conan O'Brien

Why don't you just take some time?

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351.757 - 361.551 Sona Movsesian

You just checked it. What are you talking about? Also, it's here, too. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. You said that. I remember you saying that. I wanted that. You're like, guys, let's Shure it up, everybody.

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361.651 - 370.123 Conan O'Brien

What was the model, though? Yeah. What model? Well, it's interesting. What I wanted was I wanted it to be in this shape. Remember that? And I drew the shape for you.

Chapter 8: How does Judd Apatow view the current state of comedy?

370.403 - 372.106 Matt Gourley

And did these mics need a preamp or no?

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372.186 - 393.127 Conan O'Brien

No. Well, I said as long as it's an SM7, B or eight. I don't have my glasses on. It's a B. What's that? It's a B. Well, I said B or eight. Right, right. Because the eights are fine, but you really want the B. And so once I knew that we had the Shure and that it was an eight and not a B, I was like, we are ready to go and we should have dynamic ad insertion.

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393.427 - 411.899 Conan O'Brien

And what I've done is I've created many platforms and these are trilingual, quadrilingual, quadrilateral. We have achieved a new level. These are actually dynamic microphones. As well. So dynamic. And I've had this mic inserted. And you know what? We just lost our eight year old viewer. Parents took the.

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412.1 - 415.809 Sona Movsesian

Oh, you think we just lost them now? Yeah. I think they tuned out a minute ago.

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415.829 - 416.831 Conan O'Brien

I don't think so.

417.332 - 419.257 Sona Movsesian

When you said dynamic ad insertion.

419.317 - 421.723 Conan O'Brien

Now, if his kids had a lot of chocolate milk, he's revving.

421.703 - 424.145 Sona Movsesian

You were kind of sexualizing it, too, a little bit.

424.326 - 425.827 Conan O'Brien

Well, that's the thing I was commenting on.

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