Tom Holland and Dominic Sandbrook of The Rest Is History Podcast
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What makes Tom Holland and Dominic Sandbrook excited about history?
Hi, my name is Dominic Sandbrook, and I feel surprisingly aroused about being Conan O'Brien's friend.
Okay, you understand that. Hi, my name is Tom Holland, and I feel chuffed about being Conan O'Brien's friend.
Okay, looking that up now on UK Slang.
Fall is here, hear the yell. Back to school, ring the bell. Brand new shoes, walking blues. Climb the fence, books and pens. I can tell that we are gonna be friends. Yes, I can tell that we are gonna be friends.
Hey there. Welcome to Conan O'Brien. Needs a friend. Shocking. Shocking revelation today. Sonam of Session is not with us. Her chair, like Tiny Tim's little stool in the corner, is empty. Just a crutch. She's not here. No.
How do humor and history intertwine in storytelling?
Instead, it's just Matt and I. Which is nice, because this is a different dynamic for us.
There's none of that, her braying laugh. Yeah. She's a nice icebreaker, though, because isn't it a little awkward with just you and me, you know?
Reminds me of an old Norm Macdonald joke. He said, yeah, I went home for Thanksgiving and saw the family, and my dad and I accidentally made eye contact. And I thought, God damn it, I relate to that. So now we have to look in each other's eyes.
No, no. No, you can't. You can't do it. No, I can't do that. I can't do that. But do you know where Sona is? I don't. No one told me where she went. You're going to love this. Okay. She is speaking, I think a featured guest speaker at an assistance convention. No, she's not.
What are the challenges of discussing grim historical events?
Is that a bit? I swear to God. This is not a bit. This is true.
Yeah. I can just see your eyes glowing. Is it a how-to or like a cautionary tale? I don't know. No, I think she is, you know. Is it a scared straight? She turns the chair around backwards and sits down. Look, guys, if you want to be an assistant, don't do what I did. Wow. I know. So she's telling people how to be an assistant.
Ostensibly. I don't know if it's a Q&A or she's doing a speech about it, but she is- It could be a trial. Of war crimes. Maybe it's an entrapment.
She's like Eichmann. She's in a glass booth. She's wearing headphones. People are coming up and testifying against her. We may never see her again. No, we're not going to see her because I know what the verdict's going to be. Wow, that's incredible.
She also found out recently before going to this that it's for a bunch of tech company assistants. Yeah. So it's not even like industry entertainment assistants. This is specifically tech.
Oh, this is a disaster. I mean, I wish we could find out where it is and quickly drive over there in a van. Let's find out when she's back. Remind me, we have to dig down deep. on what happened.
We'll do a whole segment on it. Yeah, because- We gotta find out more.
It's just astounding to me. But, you know, we love our Sona. We do miss her.
How do Tom and Dominic choose their historical heroes?
We do.
Rest in peace.
Yeah, well, no, please, she's fine. Oh.
You always go right to rest in peace. Well, that was a good meal. Yep, rest in peace. No! How are you? Oh, I'm- This is a chance for us to really drill down. How are you, Matt Gourley, as a person? How's your life? It's good. Look at me, I'm right here.
No, I can't. Look me in the eye. I can't do it.
Look at me.
Right past you. Oh, wow.
What role does humor play in understanding historical figures?
I'm good. I'm good. Thank you. How are you?
You didn't say anything and then you put it right back on me. How am I going to find out about you?
What do you want to know? I'm an open book. You aren't. You aren't an open book. How are things at home? How's everything going? Good, good. My daughter's cracking me up daily. How old is she now? She's going to be four by the time this comes out. Okay. Yeah. Very good. Yeah, this doesn't air for three years. Okay.
So that's great.
Yeah. Is she funny? She's really funny. Yeah. She's a character, man. She rules the house. She's a like beta to the rest of the world, but it just horrible alpha to me.
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That's what happens. Is it? They're like lovely to other people and then they come home and they're absolute Mussolini's.
You're not kidding. Yeah. Even when it comes down to play, like she gives me my lines for when we're playing. Oh yeah. She dictates them to me.
How does history inform our perspective on current events?
Yeah.
Yeah. Well, it sounds like you're miserable at home.
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Chapters
8 chapters
1
What makes Tom Holland and Dominic Sandbrook excited about history?
0:03–0:58
2
How do humor and history intertwine in storytelling?
0:58–1:46
3
What are the challenges of discussing grim historical events?
1:46–3:14
4
How do Tom and Dominic choose their historical heroes?
3:14–3:37
5
What role does humor play in understanding historical figures?
3:37–4:30
6
How does history inform our perspective on current events?
4:30–6:09
7
What legal considerations arise when using music in podcasts?
6:09–7:52
8
What are the implications of copyright in podcasting?
7:52–1:01:04