What should the future of federal immigration enforcement look like?

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What are the implications of the DHS shutdown on immigration enforcement?

Unknown 0:00
The Department of Homeland Security, or DHS, is in a shutdown, which, depending on how long it lasts, may impact airport operations, disaster response, and cybersecurity. What won't stop are immigration enforcement operations, even though the shutdown happened because of a congressional deadlock over the Trump administration's immigration crackdown.
Rand Paul 0:19
To restore trust in ICE and Border Patrol, they must admit their mistakes, be honest and forthright with their rules of engagement, and pledge to reform.
Unknown 0:31
That's Republican Senator Rand Paul during a Senate Homeland Security Committee hearing last week. Acting Immigration and Customs Enforcement Director Todd Lyons testified during that hearing.
Todd Lyons 0:41
In regards to every law enforcement operation, of course we go back, we look at lessons learned, we always look back. You know, at the end, the ownership of that is mine.
Unknown 0:49
ICE has faced intense scrutiny after immigration agents shot and killed two U.S. citizens in Minneapolis last month.
Todd Lyons 0:56
I did give my condolences to the family and requested to meet them personally to give my condolences on behalf of the officers and agents involved.
Unknown 1:04
Democrats have refused to approve funding until new restrictions are put in place, like requiring immigration agents to wear body cameras and to carry judicial warrants for raids. Most Republicans have so far wanted fewer reforms, leading to the deadlock. But in Minnesota, things are changing.
Tom Homan 1:21
Good morning. I'm Tom Homan, border czar of President Trump.

How can ICE restore trust and implement reforms?

Unknown 1:26
Just days ago, border czar Tom Homan announced the end of the immigration surge in Minneapolis.
Tom Homan 1:32
I'm very pleased to report that this surge operation have yielded the successful results we came here for. I have proposed and President Trump has concurred that this surge operation conclude.
Unknown 1:45
But was that operation a success? Consider this. With federal immigration enforcement under the microscope, what should its future look like?
Emily Kwong 2:04
From NPR, I'm Emily Kwong.
Unknown 2:16
It's Consider This from NPR. As lawmakers and people around the country grapple with what immigration enforcement should look like, we have called up Janet Napolitano, former DHS Secretary under President Obama and to talk about the future and the past of ICE. In announcing the end of the immigration crackdown in Minnesota, Border Czar Tom Homan said it was a success. Do you see it as a success?
Janet Napolitano 2:42
No. I think it was an unfortunate example of overreach.

What lessons were learned from the recent operations in Minneapolis?

Janet Napolitano 2:48
Actually, I'm sorry to say, because I know a lot of ICE agents and they work very hard and they're very dedicated, but The way they were led, the way they conducted this operation, the influx of Border Patrol into ICE and their different operational tempo, the size of the operation, the abuses that we saw on lots of videos, this was not a model law enforcement operation.
Unknown 3:16
What do you think went wrong in terms of how they were led?
Janet Napolitano 3:19
I think it begins with the direction from the White House to somehow do 3,000 arrests per day and the kind of the verbiage, the wording used by the leadership, by not only from the White House, but from the leadership of the department. It just de-emphasized what professional law enforcement, federal law enforcement should do and how they should act, demonized an entire community. its elected leaders, its citizens, its immigrant population. And then, you know, they garb how they conducted themselves, how they didn't de-escalate in protest situations. There are lots of things that could have been done so much better if they were really doing an immigration enforcement initiative. What do you wish had been done instead in Minnesota?
Janet Napolitano 4:09
Well, number one, I wouldn't have sent in almost 3,000 federal agents into a city where the police department only has 600 officers, into a city that you could drive across in 20 minutes. So just the size of the force and the saturation of the community and the lack of coordination with state and local law enforcement. I'm afraid this will have spillover effects to federal, state, local law enforcement coordination and many other contexts moving forward.

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