Encore: Gina Chick's wild grandmother, and embracing her life as 'an element'

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David Marr 0:00
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Sarah Kanowski 0:28
ABC Listen. Podcasts, radio, news, music and more. Gina Chick is a force of nature. The world came to know her on the SBS TV series Alone Australia. A 52-year-old woman dressed in a possum skin coat, hugging trees, singing to fish and dancing barefoot on the moss. Gina survived 67 days of often cold, rainy and windy Palawa country on Tasmania's west coast. One by one, the other competitors gave up because they were too hungry or too cold or too lonely or a mix of all of that. But when Gina discovered that she had won the series, the first woman to do so, she wasn't struggling or starving. In fact, she seemed to be thriving. Gina could have kept going for weeks, especially because in the middle of the night, while out for a wee, Bonanza, she'd grabbed and killed a wallaby.
Sarah Kanowski 1:29
But it wasn't just Gina's survival skills which captivated the audience. It was her remarkable openness. Gina's stories about the life and loss of her three-year-old daughter, Blaze, touched many people deeply too. Gina grew up loving books and she comes from a line of remarkable women writers. And she's now written down her own story. It's called We Are the Stars. Hi, Gina. Hi, Sarah. Tell me about that night in Tasmania when you crashed Tackle the Wallaby.
Gina Chick 2:03
I think I was about 35 days in. It was something like that. And my whole strategy for survival was basically, I describe it as I died and I dissolved and I was regrown as part of the interconnected web of life. And what that meant was if I needed something, I would ask Big Mama. And I'd been surviving on a diet of very small trout and fried worms and fish sperm and beetles and grubs and those sorts of things. And I knew that I needed to get an animal, but the restrictions on hunting were quite severe. So no projectiles. The only way you could catch an animal was to either live trap it, and I didn't have the skill for that, or you had to be able to be close enough to donk it over the head with something.
Gina Chick 2:58
And I went out on this particular night and I talked to the lake and I said, Big Mama, I'm like, I know I'm here to tell a story and I can't tell it if I'm not here. So I'm going to need an animal. And I don't know how this is going to happen, but I'm going to need an animal. And not long after that, I went out for a pee.

What inspired Gina Chick to participate in Alone Australia?

Gina Chick 3:15
And you've got to understand where my bed was the most uncomfortable bed. It was like sleeping on a bed of highway rocks. Nights were 14 hours long. I'd never sleep for more than about 15 minutes at a time with an hour of being awake. And so to go out for a wee in the middle of the night, I was in no rush to come back and lie in my bed of rocks. So I would always, after a pee, sit on this log and talk to the moon and commune and, you know, just have my little hippie heart, you know, chatting to the world. And all of a sudden, in the darkness, about an hour after my pee... My body leapt and launched. And I mean, if I backtrack, I can say I felt a presence, but I didn't consciously feel the presence.
Gina Chick 3:59
I kind of came to as my body landed on a wallaby. And then I went, oh, right, that's what we're doing. And I knew there was a rock. So I kind of wrangled this struggling wallaby until I put a hand on a rock and then... doink, doink, doink and then I had food for a month. In fact, when they came to get me, I still had three weeks worth of food and I fed Lee lunch. But the interesting thing for me is I used to hunt with my dingo and because of that, my body knew what it was to be able to jump on an animal and have the right levers to be able to subdue it. And so the probably 30-odd times that I'd done that were in my nervous system and my body... Felt that there was a wallaby there and jumped on it and that was that.

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