Daniel Kinahan: King of Spin (Part One)
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How did Ken Foy unexpectedly get a 35‑minute phone call with Daniel Kinahan?
It's the 29th of January, 2021, and Irish crime reporter Ken Foy is on the phone with mob boss Daniel Kinahan.
I totally understand where you're coming from, but when I said agenda, like I said, don't take it in a disrespectful way. Everybody has an agenda, whether your agenda is to be a better journalist, more popular, make more money doing books. We all have work in case. So Daniel, would you think then, in conjunction with your lawyers, will you give me a statement before it happens, that we can just say that this is your viewpoint? I'm not willing to do that. I'm willing to do it from my there to give a statement and him saying what I'm saying. And I'm never going to give a statement to any Irish journalist ever. But if you show me that you are basically... Look, why don't you pursue the people going into the Regency Hotel with 24 people and basically put the same magnifying glass on that with 200 innocent people in place?
I was the one who tried to kill, but yeah, on the monster that the witch was on. Obviously, that's clear to see, Ken, no?
This is Daniel Kinahan, King of Spin, a four-part crime world special. Part one, Scoop. Right, so the date of this is pretty important. Here you are on the phone with Daniel Kinahan. There's a reason for that. And of course, the reason is that this show on BBC Panorama, which is going to focus on Daniel Kinahan and his position in boxing. and his domination of world boxing at this stage. Ads are running across the TV. This is really the first time that Kinahan, there's been a deep dive into Kinahan from the point of view of his links to organised crime and his position in boxing. That's happened really outside Ireland. We've done a lot of the reporting, a lot of the legwork here. But the BBC Panorama show is going to give a big punch to him, really.
Yes, so, Nicola, at a particular time, there was a big lead-up to that BBC show. So, I suppose, it's funny, with our good colleague here, Niall, we would have discussed it, and there was, for want of a better word, an intermediary at the time, someone that could act as a middle person, if you like. So, as we became more and more aware that this BBC documentary was going out, and the effect... was going to have on his boxing situation. We felt that was an opportune time to try and at least get a statement off Daniel Kinahan.
Because at that stage, of course, in 2021, we'd been writing about it for years. Obviously, the Regency had been covered in the international newspapers. But really, he's... He's in the clear generally in the media across the world and that's why this conversation is so interesting really he has with you because you can see how big a deal it is this Panorama programme is going to be for him.
in the course of the chat, that's pointed out to him a couple of times, but he didn't need me to point that out. He's obviously, with the BBC panoramic thing, it's a much bigger scale than anything we do in Ireland. And we, you know, we have to concede that. Like, once it's on BBC, and look, some people say it possibly was really, potentially, the beginning of the end for Daniel, what happened on BBC. So going back to those days in late January, there was a good bit of negotiation happening, and the aim was, I suppose, for us to get a statement. And the conversation that happened, I suppose, was a pre-log before, you know, before that, where he's, I suppose, sussing me out, I guess, for want of a better word.
Now, we're going to go on to hear more of this conversation and to discuss, really, the background to it occurring and what's going on in Planet Daniel at this point. Because as this... series is called The King of Spin. He is running a propaganda campaign in the background. And we're really going to sort of pull apart exactly how he's doing this and how he is trying to use and manipulate the media. Now, before we go any further, and we will be going back to sort of the beginning of this campaign in order to show, you know, where he's at. The conversation you've had with him is
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Chapters
4 chapters
1
How did Ken Foy unexpectedly get a 35‑minute phone call with Daniel Kinahan?
0:01–8:11
2
Why was the BBC Panorama documentary in January 2021 a turning point for Kinahan's public profile?
8:11–13:45
3
What negotiation and intermediary contacts led to Kinahan agreeing to speak at all?
13:45–30:50
4
How does Kinahan frame the media coverage of him as a 'witch hunt' during the call?
30:50–40:36
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