Kunnen we allemaal gezond 100 worden of is dat alleen voor de rijken weggelegd? Jort Kelder in gesprek met ouderdomsprofessor prof. dr. Jan Hoeijmakers en prof. dr. David Smeulders, gespecialiseerd in de energietransitie en verbonden aan de TU/e. Doctorsassistente Milou Brand schuift aan met zéér korte gedichten van Frederik van der Kamp, pseudoniem van Vic van Reijt, die reflecteren op de misère bij Ajax.
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