'Het is onverstandig is, zelfs gevaarlijk, om de samenleving zo in te richten dat de mensen, die ongeschikt zijn om te besturen, regeren. Het zijn uitsluitend degenen die de juiste kwaliteiten bezitten, die moeten regeren.' Dat schrijft dr. Jordi Wiersma in zijn proefschrift. Wat die juiste kwaliteiten zijn, daarover gaat dr Kelder met hem in gesprek.
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