This week on “Death in The Garden” we return from our hiatus to share our interview with Jesse Smith, Director of Land Stewardship at White Buffalo Land Trust, a Savory Hub in Santa Barbara, CA. This was a pivotal interview which planted innumerable seeds in our heads, all of which have since germinated into such a deeper understanding about the direction of our project: "regeneration as self-preservation"; what regeneration truly means; what sustainability truly means; the reconciliation and healing from colonialism that is necessary for progress; the epigenetics of livestock/landscapes/humans; the energetic relationships between all things; the problems with Enlightenment thinking; how technology must “be in the service of more life”; the spiritual/cultural/physical regeneration that will punctuate our transition from this paradigm to the next; and understanding that we are surrounded by a living, mysterious world. There is so much gold packed into this interview. So much of what Jesse said here has informed our worldview today, even when many of the topics he discussed were outside of our comprehension at the moment of this interview.This is a fantastic interview, and we’re glad we are revisiting it and releasing it now, as our understanding of the topics discussed has since become far more clear. This is where so many seeds were planted for us – we can’t wait to share this conversation with you all.Thank you everyone for your patience. Please rate, review, and subscribe to the podcast if you are enjoying the conversations we are having here. Check out our website and Instagram for more information about “Death in The Garden.”Editing: Jake MarquezMusic: Daniel Osterstock This is a public episode. If you'd like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit deathinthegarden.substack.com/subscribe

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