In the latest episode of the Digital Banking Podcast, host Josh DeTar of Tyfone welcomed Sachin Kundra, CIO at Chevron Federal Credit Union. The conversation centered on what it actually looks like to run an "AI-first" credit union, and why Kundra believed AI was making us both dumber and smarter at the same time.Kundra walked through real production use cases already running at Chevron FCU, an internal knowledge agent nicknamed Ask Yoda that over 250 employees used daily, and an outbound call-prep agent that cut a 25-minute manual research process down to seconds. Both were built in a matter of hours once the organization committed to an AI-first mindset, a shift that meant restructuring technical roles around agent development rather than one-off integrations.The discussion closed on where digital banking was headed next. Kundra argued that chasing every fintech feature to check a box was a losing game, and that the real risk was not falling behind on functionality, but ending up with a disjointed experience. He went further, predicting that the banking app interface itself might eventually disappear in favor of a single chat-based front end for a member's entire financial life.

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