Former Levi’s CMO Jennifer Sey: “Why I Left, Why I Fought Back & What Brands Don’t Get” | DSH #1635

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Why does Jennifer Sey refuse to manufacture in China?

Jennifer Sey 0:00
We don't make anything in China. Here's the reason why.

How is Jennifer Sey advocating for women's sports?

Jennifer Sey 0:02
In China, you cannot enter the factories.

What controversies surround NCAA and Title IX debates?

Jennifer Sey 0:05
There's no transparency. You can't go in and see what's going on. You can't see how the product is made. You can't see if it's clean. You can't see if people are treated well. Every place we make stuff, we visit. If you're not going to let me in, I'm not making stuff there.

What lessons did Levi's learn from its rebranding efforts?

Sean Kelly 0:18
So you really value quality control?

How did the American Eagle Sydney Sweeney campaign go viral?

Jennifer Sey 0:20
Well, I mean, I value quality control, but I also value people being treated with a level of decency and humanity.

What missteps did Cracker Barrel and Bud Light make with their customers?

Jennifer Sey 0:26
There's a reason you're not allowed in.

What impact did COVID-19 lockdowns have on public education?

Sean Kelly 0:34
Okay, guys, Jennifer Say here, founder of XXXY Athletics out here in Vegas, wearing the brand, of course. Thanks for coming on.

How is homelessness and crime affecting urban areas like San Francisco?

Jennifer Sey 0:41
Thanks. Thanks for having me. I'm excited.
Sean Kelly 0:43
Yeah, it's a new audience for you. So could you explain actually what your company is about?
Jennifer Sey 0:47
Absolutely. I started this brand, XXXY Athletics, about a year ago, a little over. It's the only athletic brand standing up for the protection of women's sports. We want women's sports to be for women only, which seems sort of obvious, but it's not right now.
Sean Kelly 1:01
Not right now, yeah.
Jennifer Sey 1:02
That's what we do.
Sean Kelly 1:03
You partnered with the perfect person for this on the recent launch, right?
Jennifer Sey 1:06
With Riley.
Sean Kelly 1:07
Yeah.
Jennifer Sey 1:07
Yeah, we worked with Riley since the very beginning. We launched last March in 2024, and we've continued to work together. She's the spokesperson really for the movement, and we just launched a little collection with her that sold out.
Sean Kelly 1:21
pretty fast. It's great to see that there's some progress being made, too, because Stanford revoked her opponent's titles, right?
Jennifer Sey 1:28
Penn.
Sean Kelly 1:29
Yeah.
Jennifer Sey 1:29
Penn did. Yeah.
Sean Kelly 1:30
Penn, Penn.
Jennifer Sey 1:31
Yeah, there is progress. Like, since we started last March, a lot has happened. President Trump signed an executive order, which isn't... I mean, it acts as law, but it could be... and a new one could be written with the next president, so we'd prefer legislation. But the U.S. Olympic Committee and the NCAA have already now said that the rule is only women in women's sports. But for all the progress, in almost every blue state, you're still seeing boys and girls sports. And those blue states are saying, yeah, well, that's our state constitution. That's what we view Title IX as. They think it's a big win for progress to let boys and men steal opportunities from women. So we're not done yet.
Sean Kelly 2:16
Yeah, I know Newsom and Trump have been fighting about it, right?
Jennifer Sey 2:18
Yeah, Newsom is suing the federal government because the federal government is telling him he can't do that. There's an athlete in California who goes by A.B. Hernandez, a male who won all sorts of state track championships last year. The school year just started. A.B. is now on the volleyball team, has never played before, just decided, I'm going to be on the volleyball team, made the team, displaced a woman. But I find this hopeful. The first three games of the season, the other teams forfeited. Wow. In California. So everyone's fed up.
Sean Kelly 2:50
Yeah, because there were some spikes from males that left some girls with concussions, right?
Jennifer Sey 2:54
Yeah, that's another athlete we work with, Peyton McNabb. In 2022, she got smashed in the face with a volleyball. Permanent brain injury.
Sean Kelly 3:03
Permanent? Oh my gosh. That is terrible. I can't believe that's allowed still.
Jennifer Sey 3:07
It I it's the whole thing is completely psychotic. I mean, the whole purpose of Title IX was to give women their own sports. Yeah. And this idea that if you say you're a woman, you are and you can come into women's sports is just it's it's sheer lunacy.
Sean Kelly 3:28
Yeah. I still remember.
Jennifer Sey 3:29
I mean, look how tall how tall are you?
Sean Kelly 3:30
I'm six six.
Jennifer Sey 3:31
6'6". If you said you were a woman, you could play on the women's volleyball team in California right now.
Sean Kelly 3:37
I would be the best.
Jennifer Sey 3:38
You would kick ass. Have you ever played?
Sean Kelly 3:41
No, but I bet if I could be a guest woman, I would have a big advantage.
Jennifer Sey 3:45
You would stand there and smash people with the ball. So, I mean, here's how I look at it. If you look up the world records in track and field, any distance, there isn't a single distance where the women's time is anywhere close to the men's time. Not one.

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