Karys Rhea: Are We Watching Conservatism Split in Real Time? | DSH #1795

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What is the 'edge-lord' incentive in conservative politics?

Karys Rhea 0:00
They want to be an edgelord. They want to say the most provocative, outrageous, taboo things possible.

How is the post-Trump GOP structured and who will take the mantle?

Karys Rhea 0:07
And they know that they can get away with it because we are a party of free speech.

What are the emerging ideologies within the conservative movement?

Karys Rhea 0:12
And MAGA became a very big tent. And so they really just want to push the boundaries.

How do extremism and sectarianism manifest at events like AMFEST?

Karys Rhea 0:17
As you know, they are trying to have content just like we all are. And they think that what is going to get them clicks and virality
is the things that are the most outrageous and they're probably right.

What is the difference between gatekeeping and cancel culture?

Karys Rhea 0:45
Thanks for having me. It's kind of been a long time coming, right?
Yeah. Yeah. We've been trying to do this for a while. You've been busy.
Karys Rhea 0:50
Yeah. Writing a book now.
Yeah.
Karys Rhea 0:52
Going on your honeymoon, getting married.
Marriage. We actually filmed 100 episodes this week. I was looking through the calendar.
Karys Rhea 0:58
Holy moly. Yeah.
Because there was an event we were filming out earlier this week where we did a bunch. And then this, we're doing like 60.
Karys Rhea 1:04
So it's been crazy. I guess you have to keep putting out content, right?

How do bots and foreign influence affect the conservative ecosystem online?

Karys Rhea 1:07
In order to be relevant, to gain a foothold, right? Yeah. You know how it is. In this insane ecosystem. Yeah.
Yeah, you know how it is. People forget about you if you don't post for a day.
Karys Rhea 1:15
Yeah.
You know, that's just the attention time we're in.
Karys Rhea 1:18
Yeah. Seems like you've got it under control.
Yeah. What's new with you, though? What's the main focus? What are you working on?
Karys Rhea 1:23
Well, since I left Epoch Times, I was a producer there. I left there in August and I've just been full time writing a book. I'm on a very tight deadline for it. But in addition to that, I've just been kind of doing random pro bono projects. I mean, I speak a lot at conferences or do media. And then I also am consulting Congress members and journalists on this new project. And identitarianism and sectarianism that we're seeing on the right and trying to understand the full scope, because as I say often, it's much, much bigger than Nick Fuentes or Tucker Carlson or anti-Semitism even. So I'm trying to educate and brief people so that looking ahead to a post-Trump world, everybody's really prepared for possible changes that are happening inside the GOP.
What do you think the right's going to look like after Trump? Because it seems like there's a lot of different directions it could take.
Karys Rhea 2:10
Right. Yeah. I mean, that's the million dollar question. And I think it largely depends on the will of the people. Right. I think that J.D. Vance is a big question mark. The primary concern is whether he's going to govern in the legacy of Trump. or whether he's going to govern in the image of Tucker Carlson because he's very loyal to Tucker Carlson because it is Tucker Carlson who is primarily responsible for getting him that job in the first place. I mean, he worked very hard along with Don Jr. and Charlie Kirk, I believe, to put him in front of the president and to influence and encourage the president to consider him because J.D. Vance was very anti-Trump at one point, like a lot of people are. So there's a question there.
Karys Rhea 2:58
What way is J.D. Vance going to govern? And I think that will largely, largely change the future of the Republican Party, depending.
I think a lot changed when Charlie got killed because I just saw Tim Pool talk about this.

What are the implications of ideological chaos for the next election?

He said the next ballot was going to be Vance and Charlie as VP. And then after Vance, eight years, they were going to do Charlie and John Jr. Apparently, that was the plan they were rumors about.
Karys Rhea 3:21
Oh, interesting.
So that's not happening, obviously, anymore.
Karys Rhea 3:24
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Crazy, right?
Karys Rhea 3:25
Yeah, yeah. It's a weird time. It's a sort of like a transition period, I feel like.
Yeah.
Karys Rhea 3:31
you have all of these different MAGA subgroups, right, under the big tent of MAGA that are vying for power in a post-Trump world. Everybody wants to take up the mantle of MAGA or America First and insert it with their own nuanced agenda, whatever that looks like. And some of these groups are pretty sinister and they don't have an agenda that I would say aligns with MAGA at all, but they're using that moniker or some of them are even just, proudly not MAGA anymore.

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