⁠Raphaelle Barbier ⁠is a design researcher based in France. In this interview we talk about why it is worthy to introduce co-design in the context of the project dealing with earth observations, and how they did it. Raphaelle tells about her doctoral research in which she uses as case ⁠E-Shape⁠, that project. She brings clear examples and explains how she sees the role of a designer working in big EU projects, with multiple research partners and other stakeholders, and how co-design can provide new means of creating collective action for sustainability transitions. Her sources of inspiration are: Ben Green, The Smart Enough City (about the risk of technosolutionism) Joerges and Shinn, Instrumentation between Science, State and Industry Paul N. Edwards, A vast machine: Computer models, climate data, and the politics of global warming The artist I met in Svalbard, working with Earth Observation scientists: Lena Von Goedeke https://www.instagram.com/lenavongoedeke/ This is the 5th and last episode of a series on Infrastructures. This is a series of 5 interviews to people based or coming from: Ireland, Finland, France, Denmark, and the United States. My main focus is in understanding the possible role of design in infrastructures. I started this enquiry interviewing designers involved in the development of services for other projects or based in other infrastructures. I wanted to ask them: what can we design in relation to the work of infrastructures? This episode is part of the lists: Infrastructures, Francia y diseño y Diseño sostenible. The lists can be found in our website, in Spotify and in our Youtube page. This series is part of the work I do for an EU project: ⁠IRISCC. ⁠Integrated Research Infrastructure Services for Climate Change Risks. In this project we will develop services using a co-design framework.

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