Helena Bonham Carter, cheese toasties with sticky shallots, and a prosecco

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Nick Grimshaw 0:30
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Angela Hartnell 0:39
Hi, welcome to Dish from Waitrose. My name's Angela Hartnell.
Nick Grimshaw 0:42
My name is Nick Grimshaw. And here we are for Dish in 2026.
Angela Hartnell 0:46
No, it's not. It's a 2026 episode, but it's 2025.
Nick Grimshaw 0:49
Yeah, no, I know where I am, but they're watching and listening to this in 2026.
Angela Hartnell 0:55
But it's time, isn't it? Yeah, but if you're... It says it in the cards. I read the cards.
Nick Grimshaw 1:00
Yeah, it says you don't have to pretend it's 2026 when it's not.
Angela Hartnell 1:04
But you just did.
Nick Grimshaw 1:05
I didn't.
Angela Hartnell 1:05
I didn't say, oh, I'm into it. Anyway, hello.
Nick Grimshaw 1:08
It's 2026. Oh, here we go. Not that again. Well, we're not going to pretend it's not. We're not. No, but it is. It is. Yeah. How is your Christmas? No, that's pretending. No, no, pretending. That's pretending.
Angela Hartnell 1:25
Hey, we're in a different place today. I know. This is second home. Is it? It's our new second home.
Nick Grimshaw 1:31
And how are you, Ansh? You all right?
Angela Hartnell 1:32
I'm very well, thank you. And your good self?
Nick Grimshaw 1:33
I'm good, and do you know what? I'm excited today because two things I'm really excited about are our guest, Helen Bonham Carter, who I've never ever met in my life.
Angela Hartnell 1:42
Oh, that's surprising. You've pretty much met everyone.
Nick Grimshaw 1:44
And I feel like she doesn't do too much stuff. No, she doesn't. And I really, really love her.
Angela Hartnell 1:50
She's an incredible actor.
Nick Grimshaw 1:51
And I'm also really excited about something else I'm a huge fan of. Cheese toasties. Oh, excellent. So two of my favorite things. It's like Christmas. Yeah. Oh, we had a great Christmas back in 2025, didn't we? Fabulous. I think that Helena Bonham Carter has been the one that my friends have been most excited about.
Angela Hartnell 2:14
Oh, really? Yeah. Oh, that's interesting. I think so, yeah. Yeah, she is incredible. She's super smart, super beautiful. Well, she's just beautiful. Have you ever met her? No, never. Big fan since way back. I'm old enough to remember one of her early films, A Room with a View, set in Italy.
Yeah.
Angela Hartnell 2:32
Stella Carr, she's been brilliant. She's been in so many good movies.
Nick Grimshaw 2:35
So many great films.
Angela Hartnell 2:36
And I loved her in The Crown. I thought she was fantastic.
Nick Grimshaw 2:38
Oh, of course, yeah.
Angela Hartnell 2:39
As a queen sister.
Nick Grimshaw 2:40
So Helena is here. I feel like Helena Bonham Carter is one of those names you have to say.
Angela Hartnell 2:44
Yes, the half title.
Nick Grimshaw 2:45
Helena doesn't feel right, does it? No, it feels like it. Helena Bonham Carter is here to talk about Agatha Christie's Seven Dials, which is a new Netflix show. But first, we should talk about what's in and what is out. Chicory. Chicory. Chicory. Okay, what's the difference between a chicory and an endive?
Angela Hartnell 3:03
They're the same thing. It's the same thing? Chicory, you get more, it's the sort of family name. And this is like an endive, chicory endive, they call it. And you can get little smaller ones, but it's quite bitter, but which I like. I think you can cook with these. They're perfectly fantastic in a salad. They go really well with things like strong cheeses. Like there's this amazing restaurant in New York called Estella, which you've been to, I think.
Nick Grimshaw 3:29
On your recommendation.
Angela Hartnell 3:30
And they do this great chicory salad with the endive here. And they, it's lovely, the leaves, and then they put these toasted walnuts and then this umbriaco cheese, which is like this Italian cheese soaked in red wine. And it's absolutely delicious. So it's great. And I think this something's perfect with the mustard dressing.
Unknown 3:48
Mmm.
Angela Hartnell 3:48
Or if you want to, you can cook with them, and it goes really well with things like duck and chicken. You can cook them slowly, roast them in butter, add some orange juice, and it takes on all those beautiful, lovely citrusy flavours. And that would be work with a Christmas dinner, a lunch.

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