Why the CIA Bans Processed Food (But You’re Told It’s Safe)

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What is the main topic discussed in this episode?

Emmanuelle Chriqui 0:00

Jonathan and I talk a lot about what we think is a, it's not even a conspiracy, what we think is an overt, you know, plan by the government to make us sick and then sell us pills to make us better.

Why did the hosts claim the government reverses studies about ultra-processed food?

Emmanuelle Chriqui 0:11

Can you talk a little bit, you know, our favorite example is the ultra processed food study that came out. And like, lo and behold, what Europe has known for decades, America was finally like, hey, it seems like something weird's going on with ultra processed food and your health. And then very quickly after that, the government was like, that study was incorrect. They did the analysis wrong. The algorithm was incorrect. And ultra processed food is really good for you. That's like cuckoo pants crazy to me and Jonathan. Is there anything you can speak to about sort of the the food complex that is this country? And like we're like, you know, food ink people were like, you know, those kinds of hippies.

Emmanuelle Chriqui 0:52

So anything you say is safe here, but I'd love to know your take on sort of what's going on with the industrial food complex in this country.

Andrew Bustamante 1:00

You know, this didn't really come to my awareness until after I left CIA. Because you can imagine when you're at CIA, you live in a vacuum and you don't realize how many resources are at your disposal when you're at CIA. So... Working at CIA also means you're working with Navy SEALs, you're working with Army Delta operators, MARSOC, you're working with all the most elite services out there. To your exact point, Em, our institution does not feed elite operators processed food. They don't. And they train us. They train us to find whole food sources. They train us to sustain ourselves in the field on whole food sources. And they constantly build us back without prescription drugs as much as possible. And when they turn to using prescription solutions for elite operators, that's when they take those operators off the line.

Andrew Bustamante 1:58

So they understand. Wait, this is mind blowing. At an institutional level, they understand that optimized effort comes with whole food and non-pharmaceutical solutions. And they give us all the resources, the tools, the training, the methodologies, the staff, the support that we need to optimize ourselves because they need us to be optimized. And when the day comes that we can no longer be optimized without some sort of processed or pharmaceutical solution, that's when they replace us with somebody else. And when I was in the middle of it, I just felt like I was king of the world. I was getting all this great meat sources and great vegetables and great fruits. And I was... i was getting hours dedicated in my day for meditation and mindfulness i was like this is like this is easy living it wasn't until i left that i was like oh i see what was happening here i see why you paid somebody 250 000 a year to be my exercise scientist to calculate exactly what my caloric intake should be my exercise output should be to measure my muscles and my vo2 max i see why you did that

Andrew Bustamante 3:10

And I also see why the rest of us are stuck paying $115 a month or an hour to some trainer down the street at Planet Fitness. And being sold toys with our food. And yeah, exactly. And that becomes the most available food source is a processed food source.

Unknown 3:27

One of the things that you speak about is influence on people and people also influencing us, knowing when we're being influenced and how to increase our influence. Both of those. One is I'm not going to be able to assert myself, get... promoted, maybe make a relationship I need to, my finances might struggle, my overall health might struggle if I'm not able to have control over my own life. And the other is, how do I, if I have an idea and I want to put it out in the world, I want to influence Andrew to like what I'm talking about. Can you describe some of the tools and strategies that you've learned to both understand when someone is controlling you and how to influence other people?

Andrew Bustamante 4:11

There's a rule of thumb that CIA teaches us that's scary but simple, right? And that rule of thumb is that you are either in control or you are under control.