Q+A: Mirvac CEO: Why the property giant is ready to grow again

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Sean Aylmer 0:05
Welcome to Fear and Greed QA, where we ask and answer questions about business, investing, economics, politics, and more. I'm Sean Aylmer. Property Group Murvac is one of Australia's largest developers and property owners. With a portfolio spending residential, office industrial, retail, and build to rent, it's spent in the past three years resetting the business, selling non-core assets, strengthening its balance sheet, reshaping its portfolio. Now it says it's moving to the next. Next phase. Operating profit rose 7% to just over half a billion dollars in the latest financial year. Residential sales are up 15%. Campbell Hannon is Managing Director and CEO of Murvac. Campbell, welcome to Fear and Greed QA.
Campbell Hanan 0:44
Oh,
Sean Aylmer 0:44
thanks, Sean,
Campbell Hanan 0:45
and thanks for having me on the
Sean Aylmer 0:46
program. So you've spent the last three years at resetting Murvac. What does that mean? What have you done?
Campbell Hanan 0:53
And
Sean Aylmer 0:54
is it
Campbell Hanan 0:54
mission accomplished? Uh look, I wouldn't ever go as far as saying mission accomplished. There there were a couple of really important things for us. We've had two very significant developments underway. One is at Harborside in Darling Harbour, which is a just over $2 billion residential development. And one is a very large office building we're developing at Circular Quay in Sydney called 55 Pitt Street. We needed to fund them and so Part of what we've been doing is we needed to sell down real estate to fund those activities. at the same time working through what had been a fairly difficult development market coming out of COVID with inflation in construction costs and how that played through. So we're now sort of at that point where um very pleasingly asset sales are behind us.
Campbell Hanan 1:42
We're growing income again across every part of our business. Our development returns are getting back to their normal range. And probably the number that we're really proud of is our gearing number is below the midpoint of our range. It's at it's at twenty-four point one percent, which gives us capacity. So th
Sean Aylmer 1:58
that's kind of where you've you've come from and your gearing is relatively low, which means there are opportunities for you to do things. W where do you think you are going? I mean, what what's your asset mix going to look like in the next few years, particularly when the the two projects that you talked about are much more than residential?
Campbell Hanan 2:17
So look, the big things that are happening for our business, 70% of Murvax balance sheet is what we call income-producing real estate. It's a combination of office buildings and shopping centers, industrial sheds, uh, and then more recently a lot of what we call built-to-rent uh and land lease or living sectors. So over the last three years have we've been reallocating capital away from our office exposure and reallocating that money into building more industrial sheds. and building uh more of the living sector exposures. Uh so we're well advanced on that program, but still more to do. The gearing capacity that you mentioned That allows us to execute that, but it's also allowed us on the interim to to uh undertake a share buyback.
Campbell Hanan 3:02
And so we announced that we'll be buying back two hundred million dollars worth of shares. W we think that's a great investment. We clearly understand our business and where we see the growth coming from. And so buying back our stock we think is a a good investment compared to anything else we may be investing in at this point.
Sean Aylmer 3:20
Okay, let's talk about residential sales. I'm sure that's what everyone's asking you at the moment. You're targeting uh twenty eight hundred to thirty one hundred residential settlements this year, which is a lot more than last year, last financial year. Is there a reason for that?

What did Mirvac do in the past three years to reset its business?

Sean Aylmer 3:33
I mean, uh given That surprises me somewhat. Is there a reason for it?
Campbell Hanan 3:38
Yeah, look, and that this probably goes to the diversity of the residential offering that Murvac has. So we we're a business that can subdivide land on our urban fringes. We undertake a lot of development in our middle rings. So these can be old golf courses. Uh there's a large site in Wonturner in Melbourne, which is an old Boral site, which will be a future home to 1700 houses.

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