BITESIZE | A Monk’s Guide To Finding Happiness & Thriving in Hard Times | Gelong Thubten #678

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Why do we turn to distractions like scrolling or overeating to avoid emotional pain?

Dr. Rangan Chatterjee 0:00
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Dr. Rangan Chatterjee 0:53
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Dr. Rangan Chatterjee 1:57
Tupton explains that when we distract ourselves with low-grade addictions, we're pushing away emotional pain or discomforts. But if we can learn instead to sit with what's making us uncomfortable, those emotions can start to transform. If I look across society, what I see are a lot of people with low-grade addictions, things like alcohol, social media, pornography, online shopping. And it seems to me that the root cause of a lot of these addictions is distraction. you make the case that distraction or the pushing away of our feelings of pain, of discomfort, is actually the cause of many of our problems. Do you agree that we are a society that seems to be addicted to distraction? And if you do, what's the underlying cause?
Gelong Thubten 3:00
I think we're definitely addicted to distraction. And of course, the way we use technology has really fed into that. I went away into a four-year-long retreat in 2005. And when I came out of that retreat in 2009, everything had changed in the landscape of technology. So during those four years, the iPhone was launched and YouTube, Facebook, Twitter, all of those things happened. So when I came out of that retreat, I was quite startled by how things had sped up. And so just noticing how everybody's face is buried in the phone and there's this sort of constant barrage, this invasive nature to information, advertising, social media, all of that. And so that's incredibly addictive. And so, yes, we are all drowning in addictions of various sorts and they are all based on distraction.
Gelong Thubten 3:54
What is it we're trying to distract ourselves from is I think we don't really know how to face up to our own feelings.

How does the habit of pushing away discomfort create a cycle of endless wanting?

Gelong Thubten 4:00
So we use things to food, phones, anything to kind of get away from ourselves.
Dr. Rangan Chatterjee 4:07
Yeah. There's a quote in the introduction of your book, which I'd love to read to you because I think it really speaks to this. In pushing away discomfort, we usually don't see how the discomfort lies in the pushing. It's our habit of chasing pleasure and running away from hardship that is the real problem. And as any habit simply proliferates, so we constantly chase more and push away more, reinforcing our sense of dissatisfaction. Yeah. There's a certain irony there where We're trying to use these activities, acquire these things, engage in these behaviors to avoid feeling what we're feeling. But you're sort of making the point that actually doing that makes the problem worse. So why is that? And also, just to play devil's advocate for a minute,

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