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First Date Follow Up - The Jubal Show

Mari & Evan: She Thought He Ghosted… Then the Call Took a Sharp Turn

26 Jan 2026

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Chapter 1: What is the main topic discussed in this episode?

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75.783 - 92.69 Dr. Jesse Mills

This is Dr. Jesse Mills, host of the Mailroom Podcast. Each January, men promise to get stronger, work harder, and fix what's broken. But what if the real work isn't physical at all? I sat down with psychologist Dr. Steve Poulter to unpack shame, anxiety, and the emotional pain men were never taught how to name.

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Part of the way through the valley of despair is realizing this has happened, and you have to make a choice whether you're going to stay in it or move forward.

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She is not with us.

Chapter 2: Why did Mari think she was ghosted after her date with Evan?

491.074 - 503.43 Evan

Oh, no. Okay. So you're not ghosting, Mark? Yeah. I mean, no, I dislocated my shoulder and wife got pretty bad. I've been healing, but she emailed you guys saying I've been ghosting her for four days.

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Yeah.

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505.272 - 512.221 Evan

So you've just been healing up because you hurt your shoulder? Yeah, yeah. I mean, it was a pretty bad accident.

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Chapter 3: What was Mari's description of her date with Evan?

512.661 - 540.793 Evan

I'm sorry about your accident, but she did text you. Yeah, she did, but I've been healing from an injury for four days. Like, I don't know. I haven't even responded to my mom, you know? Okay. All right. Well, did you like her? Well, can you handle that right now? You've been healing for four days. Well, yeah, I like her, but this is kind of feeling weird. Feeling like a little ganged up on and...

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541.803 - 578.392 Evan

I don't think four days is a long time. Well, if you're feeling ganged up on right now, Evan, Mari is on the phone and wants to talk to you. She's here? Yep, and she wants to talk to you. Hi, Evan. Hey, what's up? Thanks. I'm sorry to hear about your snowboarding injury, but you ignored my text. Um, yeah, I'm sorry. I'm injured, though, and I've been dealing with a lot. Oh, poor baby.

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578.412 - 607.677 Evan

Do you need some help? Could I come over, maybe? What? No, um, no, I'm not... What? No, this... What? No, I'm... Thank you. I appreciate your concern and why you take care of me, but I'm really best when I heal on my own, by myself, in peace and quiet. I mean, it's not, I'm not, I'm not trying to be funny. Like it's, you know, that's just who I am. Okay. You guys are laughing at me too.

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607.938 - 630.411 Evan

Well, I mean, it's just, you know, you sound like you're very awkward about this situation. You don't want her to come over and help you. No. Would you want someone to come over after a first date while you're like in the worst situation in life? Like I don't look good. I probably haven't showered. Not going to lie. Like, Evan, if you're hurting, I want to be there to help you.

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631.092 - 656.067 Evan

That's what happens in a relationship. I don't care. You're really sweet, but we're not in a relationship. And I feel weird talking about this on the radio in front of strangers. I know that, but that's where we're heading, isn't it? You could have sent me another text and I could have probably gotten through the cloudedness of being on meds.

656.603 - 681.629 Evan

Probably been, like, up front and been like, hey, maybe in a couple weeks. Like, honestly, I don't think I'm ready to go on a date for a really long time. I'm not in a good place right now. Like, I'm in pain. I'm on meds. I'm not myself. Don't take it personally. But maybe not do this to the next person. I think you need to maybe wait. I can just come over. Like, I don't need a lot. No.

681.989 - 705.968 Evan

No, thank you. I make a really good chicken noodle soup, and my dad was in an accident when I was a kid. I know how to take care of people. Uh-huh. You said that you didn't text your mom back. I can text her for you. I can handle all that for you. Just give me your mom's number. Oh, no.

706.068 - 707.069 Dr. Jesse Mills

No. Boundaries.

708.731 - 736.864 Evan

Yeah, just, is this, are you being serious, or are you just, like, doing this for show at this point? I'm being serious. I love you and you're hurt. I want to be there. Hey, Evan. Guys, I got to go. I'm sorry. I don't have time for this. Mari. Yeah, goodbye. Oh, no. Yeah, he's gone. He hung up, Mari. Mari. Sorry. That's just how he is, guys. But you heard him.

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