Chapter 1: Who is getting ghosted and why?
Natalie is on the phone today and she's getting ghosted by Ben. So we're going to talk to her and then in a few minutes call Ben and see if he'll tell us why he's ghosting her and maybe get her another date. But first, Natalie, how long has it been since you heard from Ben?
Um, well, it's been a few days now.
Just a couple days? Are you sure you're getting ghosted?
Yeah, it's just like a weird vibe, you know?
Like, I just want to know what's going on. Well, after a couple days, I feel like you know you're getting ghosted if you've tried to reach out to them a few times and they don't respond. Did you try to reach out to them?
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Chapter 2: How did Natalie and Ben's date go?
I sent them a text, yeah, and nothing back. So I don't know. I don't get it.
So the vibe feels like it shifted somehow. Well, let's talk about your date. How did that go? How did you guys meet?
I mean, it wasn't, like, you know, a wild date or anything. We just, like, went to this cute little Italian place, and it was really low-key, but, like, vibey and, I don't know, romantic and candles and all that good stuff, you know? And conversation was awesome, which...
you know isn't always the case and yeah okay there was like wine involved and all that but you know it was it was good I thought it was good and I liked that he wasn't really trying to like impress me you know or anything like it wasn't like flashy or he was just grounded and we talked about music and like you know wanting to travel and our favorite shows and
It just felt real, you know, like good and real. And he seemed real. And so, yeah, I'm like into him. And I don't know. I just felt like he was different.
He was different when you were on the date or like at a certain point he got different.
No, like, I feel like, like, as a guy, as opposed to, like, other guys I've got.
Oh, like, he was, oh, oh, I see.
Also, like, as in a good thing that he was different. Yeah, yeah. Oh, okay. Yeah, like, he's just, like, a different, different kind of dude, you know? Did you feel like he was vibing with you, too? I don't know. I don't know. Is there anything that happened?
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Chapter 3: What might have gone wrong on their date?
I mean, did anything happen on the date that was awkward or could be a reason that you're getting ghosted? How?
At dinner. Like, I might have gotten, like, too excited, you know? Like, we were just talking about travel, and I told him about this trip, and then, like, the wine was talking, and I just told him to come along and, like, pretend we were newlyweds and get free toast.
Okay, the newlyweds part might have done it. Yeah. We should go to Greece and pretend to be married. I like you. Yeah, I could see how that would, you know.
But that feels like it also could be like, oh, she's clearly had some wine. This is fun. I don't know. But he made out with you after that or before that?
After, you know, and it was like a total joke. Like I was like, oh, you know, like it would be wild kind of thing, you know, but like. Oh my God. I mean, why am I already doing talking about trips? I don't know. And he laughed at the time, but like, Oh, he's been totally radio silent ever since. And I've texted him and like, now it's just, you know, I just been like, Oh, Hope you're doing well.
I had a great time. I'd love to see you again, but we don't have to pretend to be married anymore.
Yeah. Well, we'll see if we can figure it out for you. We'll play a song, come back and then call him and see if he'll tell us why he's ghosting you and maybe get you another date. Okay.
Okay.
All right. We'll play a song, come back and get your first day follow up next. If you're just joining us for today's first date follow up, Natalie is on the phone and she's getting ghosted by Ben. So we're about to call him and see if he'll tell us why she's ghosting him, even though we might know why. Not sure. Natalie, before we call him, why don't you kind of recap what you told us?
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Chapter 4: What is Ben's side of the story?
Joel's reaction was polarized by it. All right, well, let's see. Are you ready for us to call him?
Yeah.
Okay, here we go. Hello? Hi, may I speak to Ben, please?
This is Ben.
Hey, Ben, how are you? This is a radio show. It's called The Jubal Show.
Hi, I'm Nina. Hi, I'm Victoria.
And I'm Jubal.
How are you? I'm good. We're on the radio right now.
Yeah. Have you ever listened to the show before? Yeah, I have actually. I don't know if you've heard a first date follow-up before, but that's where if you go out on a date with somebody and then you ghost them, that person can email us to get you on the phone and ask why you're ghosting them. So that's why we're calling you today, Ben. You're ghosting somebody, and they're very confused.
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