Fly on the Wall with Dana Carvey and David Spade
Mark Normand Might Just Be Norm Macdonald Light
23 Apr 2026
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Chapter 1: What is the main topic discussed in this episode?
Well, that was an L.A. version, so we kept it a little queefy for you. I know you're old. Thank you.
Queefy? I'm going to look that up.
I get that all the time. People say, kill yourself. You're no Norm. You're like Norm Light.
Chapter 2: What insights does Mark Normand share about being compared to Norm Macdonald?
You're Norm, but bad and gay.
Did you kill yourself or did you take any of that advice?
Nah, not yet. Later. But they're just going around the moon. They're not letting them on the moon, which I thought was messed up, but it might hurt the property value. And then I said, of course, they make the black guy do a drive-by. And I say, let him on the moon.
Chapter 3: What are Mark Normand's thoughts on the moon and space travel?
I want to see that guy jump. Can you imagine that moon jump? And then I call it moon team. So we had some good times.
Dana, Mark Norman, who's a very funny comic. Not on every single person's radar yet, but that's what we like to do. Get someone like we did with Shane, get him a little early.
Pre-stadium.
Yeah, pre-stadiums. He's always consistently funny when I see him do quick sets or on Instagram or just talking to the dude. He's got a great sort of Norm Macdonald-y vibe.
Well, they talk about his love of Norm.
yeah his love of stand-up uh and also he does a podcast called we might be drunk with samorelle is another great comic so two of them are out there killing it and he was a lot of fun and just a lot of jokes a lot of laughing and we really kind of dug deep with him too
yeah you talk about the uh because he really writes a lot of jokes per minute and a lot of punch lines per minute and the pressure to keep coming up with material yeah little shorties yeah we probably got three jokes every minute you're right and it's just hard to fill an hour on stand up and then i think we talked about doing a special and how
How much of that can you still use?
All the normal inside baseball or what it's like to be a touring stand-up comic. It was a pleasure to hang out with him. Ladies and gentlemen, enjoy... Mark Norman.
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Chapter 4: How does Mark Normand sustain his comedy career after a breakout special?
Do you hear that or not?
I get that all the time. People say, kill yourself. You're no norm. You're like norm light. You're norm, but bad and gay.
Did you kill yourself or did you take any of that advice?
nah not yet later yeah not for them if there's a million comics you're gonna look like someone you're gonna act like someone that's just the way it is i i get i get dana at the fucking car wash the other day the guy goes isn't that special and then he goes i'm sorry i love opportunity knocks i love all your movies and i go thank you i think dana does the same thing they think we're the i've aged out of our we used to got really compared a lot but yeah
Joe Dirt! But anyway, we've interviewed people on this. We interviewed Shane when he was still in the clubs and he maybe had just put out the YouTube special and I was following your trajectory. So based on the experience of this podcast, you'll be headlining Madison Square Garden in 11 months.
Hey, all right. I'll take it. I just got to say some Asian slurs and I'm in.
That's the trick. That's a shortcut.
That's the thing is you go anywhere you want and it's never comes off. I mean, I don't know. You just, it doesn't come off dark or weird or creepy. It's just sort of, you just flow by, but you go wherever you want. Right. As far as just topics and stuff.
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Chapter 5: How does Mark Normand refine his comedy material daily?
Yeah, thanks. You always hear these people like, what can you joke about? Where's the line? I think if it's got a punchline and a twist, you can joke about anything. And so I go all in. And yeah, I've been told I'm non-threatening. I'm queefy.
Asexual. It's queefy. I said that. You're queefy. You're asexual. That's great. This is a great quality to have in a comic. You're unoffensive, even though you're offensive.
There you go. So I think people told me earlier, like, no one cares about you. You're kind of under the radar. So I said, all right, well, that's a detriment, but maybe I can use it to say horrible things.
No. You throw it away, and you make it a little innocent. You do that arm move, something about you're almost sort of commenting on how dark it was. Well, you know.
But it's all cheery. It's all cheery delivery.
Yeah.
yeah that's where that comedy comes from because i had to remind audiences hey comedy we're doing i don't actually yeah oh by golly well i think you stumbled upon a really smart point um
is if dana or i go to one of these gigs and say something too much we we can step in quicker but if you or shane on the way up for theo you're just saying crazy things quietly in the clubs and then you build up an audience and they're all used to it so it's all baked in by the time other people hear about it it's too late because you've already settled the stuff everyone's accepted it
And you're not like a corporate working for these different big places. So no one's telling you no. And now that's just you. And that's a great way to do it. Because if I'm only on sitcoms and PG-13 movies and then out of the blue, and I also do corporate gigs and I do commercials. So if someone, I say something, it jumps out more if I'm making any sense.
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Chapter 6: What makes classic comedy films endure according to Mark Normand?
Dana looks like a fresh daisy.
I'm inside a ring light. You can't see the ring light.
He lives in a ring light.
I'm literally in a bubble of light. If you sat in my light, Mark, 19. You'd look 19.
You'd look 19, 20. It's hard because you just want to keep working. And you look at people that blow up quickly and you go...
it's probably harder i i sort of got known over time gradually and it was weird enough but these people like the jim carrey thing where they get so famous like overnight so huge well 15 years overnight i mean yeah jim he did have living color but to have dumb and dumber the mask and you know ace venture in a row you go what how do you that's another level
Well, yeah, that's a whole explosion. But just because of for history's sake, when he showed up in L.A., I was around and he was at the improv and Jim was just doing pure impressions like Rich Little. And he would act out on Golden Palm with Henry Fonda and Catherine Hepburn with perfect voices.
James Dean, look.
I remember that.
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Chapter 7: How does Mark Normand feel about the pressure of performing in theaters?
We were laughing at the bubbles.
Just at some point, can we, yeah. Will it ever end? I mean, Hillary is just like.
Dude, I like when they talk about the Epstein files and I look and they go, and about every day on Instagram, someone's reading another email. That's so horrible. And I go. Where's that guy? Like, I don't know if it's like illegal, write an email or that there's something where you go, this guy, something was going on. The shit they say. And then you never hear like, did they, did he get scolded?
Maybe a slap on the wrist, anything?
No. No, and you got to hand it to Hillary because Bill Gates's wife left tootsweet. She was like, you're involved in this guy. I'm out of here. Hillary's like, hold my beer. I mean, I'll tell you about Monica. I'll tell you about everything.
Bill Gates's wife was like, I'm going to take 80 billion and get the hell out of Dodge.
She goes, I'm the bravest woman you've ever seen. Me, my backpack, and 70 billion.
Yeah.
On my own.
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Chapter 8: What challenges does Mark face when creating new material for specials?
Hey, you're on soon.
Hey, you're making me insane. You're making me dizzy.
Love Jimmy Fallon. How many Fallons do we got?
Four.
Okay, I have a legitimate question. You have gone in Rogan how many times?
Well, we have a thing called Protect Our Parks where we go on and just get drunk with Shane and Ari and just joke around for four hours. So I think we've done 11 of those or 12.
Fucking hilarious. That's a great idea.
Who's in that gang? You, Shane, who else? Ari Shaffir and Joe. We used to listen to Open Anthony and all these other crazy radio shows, and those have kind of gone away. So he said, let's just dick around, be idiots, say horrible things, get drunk, do mushrooms, smoke cigars, and just be a bunch of dudes.
That should be the number one rated show. It probably is actually, uh, you actually do mushrooms. When you, does Joe move the needle? Do you plug gigs or is it, that's gotta be at least some push for something.
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