TPP 030: 12-year-old Asher Talks with David Flink, a Leader in the Learning Rights Movement

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What is the purpose of this special kid‑focused episode and who are the hosts?

David Flink 0:00
It's come from a place around how we've gone about not telling our story, right? The minute you are kind of instructed not to talk about experience, it it adds a level of shame. And the opposite of shame is pride.
Debbie Reber 0:17
Welcome to the Tilt Parenting Podcast, a podcast featuring interviews and conversations aimed at inspiring, informing, and supporting parents raising differently wired kids. I'm your host, Debbie Rieber, and today's episode is an Asher special episode, but not the kind we usually do. Typically, Asher and I sit down and talk about some theme we're exploring together, like frustration or mindset or screen time. But this week, Asher's actually stepping into my role as interviewer and having a conversation with the author of the book, Thinking Differently, an inspiring guide for parents of children with learning disabilities and founder of the mentoring organization Eye to Eye, which pairs high school and college students with ADHD and learning.
Debbie Reber 0:58
disabilities with younger kids who have the same diagnosis. His name is David Flink and he is an incredibly inspiring person, and this work is very personal to him, as he himself has ADHD and dyslexia and struggled to find his way as a kid. But since founding Eye to Eye in 1998 while a student at Brown University, he has been focused on both empowering and inspiring kids with learning and attention issues to embrace their unique way of learning and thinking, and getting rid of the negative stigmas that surround the labels associated with these differences. Asher was a little nervous to be an interviewer, but he loved chatting with David and hearing about someone else's journey that has so much in common with his own.
Debbie Reber 1:43
I am sure if he had his way he'd be Skyping with David Weekly. David, I think you probably can't manage that, but he did bring it up after the conversation. Anyway, I hope you all enjoyed their conversation as much as I did. And as always, thanks for listening to the Tilt Parenting Podcast. To learn more about Tilt, visit www.tiltparenting.com.
Asher 2:07
Hello!
David Flink 2:09
Hello. Look at that. Very holy moly, you got the whole mic with the thing in front of it and everything. Oh man, this is this is way more
Asher 2:18
it's so the microphone won't break when I say words with a P in them.
David Flink 2:22
Well, what am I gonna do? I don't have the same uh the same microphone.
Asher 2:27
Don't say words with P's in them.
David Flink 2:29
Okay. I will avoid all words that start with P. We'll see how that goes.
Unknown 2:35
Well
David Flink 2:36
I am so excited and honored to be able to do this with you. And sorry it took a little while to set up, but here we are.
Unknown 2:42
Yeah.
David Flink 2:43
I know you asked the questions, but can I ask at least one question before we get started?
Asher 2:47
You can ask as many questions as you want.
David Flink 2:50
Okay, I wanna know two questions then. So the first you want the easy one or the hard one first?
Asher 2:54
Hard one.
David Flink 2:55
All right, a hard one is I want to know what prompted you to to do this, to start this.
Asher 3:02
Well it's mostly mom.
David Flink 3:03
Okay. Tell me more about that.
Asher 3:06
Um well We wanna help parents to understand kids who are wired differently.
David Flink 3:15
Good. I like that. Okay, now the easy question. Where are you right now?
Asher 3:19
In Amsterdam.
David Flink 3:21
Okay, I see like behind you I see that my name's on the top, so that makes me excited. I got I see like you got a whole list of I guess people maybe that you're recording or gotta record and I think it's amazing you're doing this from Amsterdam. I'll tell ya, today there's an article about me and eye to eye in USA Today. But the thing I'm most pumped about is this right here.
Asher 3:43
Yay.
David Flink 3:44
Yay. All right.
Asher 3:45
That's awesome.
David Flink 3:45
Yo your show. Back to you.
Asher 3:48
Yeah, so um when did you first find out you had ADHD and dyslexia?
David Flink 3:54
Uh
Asher 3:56
Cool logo by the way.
David Flink 3:57
Thanks. Um, you too. I love I love it. I can see in the background.
Asher 4:01
We got a professional logo designers competition.
David Flink 4:05
Oh, is that right? Yeah, they were all
Asher 4:07
like, I wanna make the logo for teleparenting. No, I wanna make the logo and it's like, Hey, I made this logo. Look at me me
David Flink 4:16
That's great. I love it. Um, okay, when when did I first find out? It's somewhere around the fifth grade. Yeah, somewhere around the fifth grade, things were kinda not between me and school things were not connecting, you know?

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