TPP 146a: Self-Directed Learning Advocate Blake Boles on Unschooling

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Debbie Reber 0:00
Hey there, it's Debbie and welcome to Playback Friday. Every Friday, I'll re-release one of my favorite conversations from the archives. Unless you're a longtime listener of the show, there's a good chance you haven't heard this one yet. And even if you have, you just may get something completely different listening to it this time around.
Blake Boles 0:19
I call this the folk psychology of unschooling. The principle is that when the kid really wants to learn something and they have their own chosen reason to learn it, then they will do it rather quickly. And that's the power of self-directed learning.
Debbie Reber 0:36
Welcome to Tilt Parenting, a podcast featuring interviews and conversations aimed at inspiring, informing and supporting parents raising differently wired kids. My name is Debbie Reber and I'm the host of the show and I am really excited to share this conversation with you. My guest is Blake Bowles, the self-directed learning advocate behind Unschool Adventures and the author of several books on unschooling, including The Art of Self-Directed Learning, Better Than College, and College Without High School, as well as the host of the Off-Trail Learning Podcast. Now, you may be listening to this and thinking, I am not homeschooling my child or unschooling is just not my thing. But I'm going to encourage you to listen to what Blake has to say.
Debbie Reber 1:21
Because regardless of your child's educational circumstances, there is wisdom to be gleaned from Blake's philosophy on self-directed learning and helping our kids grow up into intrinsically motivated humans
Blake Boles 1:35
who
Debbie Reber 1:35
understand themselves and are driven to seek out the information and resources they need to achieve their goals. I also love that Blake's approach beautifully challenges those traditional timelines that are differently wired kids often don't meet anyway. So have a listen and let me know what you think. I'm curious to hear how this interview lands with you. Lastly, if you enjoy this podcast and would like to support its production and support all the work that Tilt Parenting is doing, please consider joining my Patreon campaign and supporting the show with a small monthly contribution. The money that comes in through Patreon goes directly toward covering the production costs for this show and for Tilt Parenting.
Debbie Reber 2:18
Thank you so much for considering. And if you want to learn more or sign up, just go to patreon.com slash Tilt Parenting or look for a link on any of the show notes pages. Thank you so much and now here is my conversation with Blake. Hey Blake, welcome to the podcast.
Blake Boles 2:42
Thanks for having me.
Debbie Reber 2:43
And just so listeners know that I'm recording this in the evening in New Jersey, and I'm talking to Blake, who is in New Zealand right now. So the audio quality sounds great, and I just have to give a nod to Skype and modern technology.
Blake Boles 2:58
I will also give a nod to communication technology. Thank you very much.
Debbie Reber 3:02
Yes, thank you. So before we get started, I always like to just give guests an opportunity to introduce themselves a little bit about, you know, your personal why.

What is unschooling and how does it differ from traditional homeschooling?

Debbie Reber 3:12
And I'm sure this work is very personal for you. So can you tell us a little bit about what you do and why you do it?
Blake Boles 3:19
I've been working with teens who don't go to regular school for most of my adult career. And I didn't get into this as a young person myself. I went to public school in California. I went to university because I thought I wanted to be an astrophysicist. And very quickly, I was mugged by reality and instead got into alternative education and designed my own degree to study education full time because that just seemed a lot more interesting and relevant and important. And I started working at a summer camp after university called Not Back to School Camp, which is the preeminent summer camp for teenage unschoolers in the US. And that's where I got to really meet a lot of these kids face to face. And it was so inspiring to meet them and to experience what it's like to work with teenagers in this more, I guess, authentic setting.
Blake Boles 4:07
And that inspired me to write books about them and for them and to start a company called Unschool Adventures.

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