TPP 188a: Dr. Terry Roberts on "The New Smart" and How Nurturing Creativity Will Help Children Thrive

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Debbie Reber 0:00
Hey there, it's Debbie. Today's episode is a special re-release of a favorite conversation from the archives. Unless you're a longtime listener of the show, there's a good chance you haven't heard this one before. And even if you have, you just might get something completely different from it this time around.
Terry Roberts 0:15
I think what we need to know is that public schooling is designed to do a fairly narrow range of things. And that that range has become increasingly narrow over the last three decades. And as a result, we can run the risk and have alienated certain kinds of students.
Debbie Reber 0:39
Welcome to Tilt Parenting, a podcast featuring interviews and conversations aimed at inspiring, informing, and supporting parents raising differently wired kids. I'm your host, Debbie Reber, and this week we are looking to the future. My guest is Dr. Terry Roberts, a lifelong teacher, educational reformer, and novelist whose book, The New Smart, How Nurturing Creativity Will Help Children Thrive, seeks to answer the questions, who will prosper in the year 2050? How will schools need to change in order to support the students of the 21st century? And in what ways will the markers and paths to success for our children look different than our own? In exploring this topic, Dr. Roberts draws on his decades of teaching in the public school system and his deep personal interest in the ideas of creativity and intelligence and the ways in which our schools define, recognize, and foster talents in all students.
Debbie Reber 1:39
In this episode, we share a deep conversation about what the schools of the future will look like, how parents can shift their thinking about success, and the importance of creativity in our rapidly changing world. Lastly, if you get a lot out of this podcast and would like to support its production, I would like to invite you to make a small monthly contribution to help fund this show. It's really easy to do. Just go to patreon.com slash tilt parenting and sign up. You can choose how much you want to donate each month $10 $5 even $2 a month. Again, that's patreon.com slash tilt parenting. Thank you so much for considering that. And now here is my conversation with Dr. Terry Roberts. Hello, Terry. Welcome to the podcast.
Terry Roberts 2:32
Hi, Debbie. It is a pure pleasure to be with you. I have great admiration for your work and great sympathy for your many, many, many listeners, both as a parent and as an educator.
Debbie Reber 2:45
Well, thank you so much. I'm looking forward to bringing this conversation. And yeah, I think there's so many things that we could touch upon today. So I'm excited to dive in. So could you just take a few minutes to introduce yourself to my listeners? Tell us a little bit about your background as an educator and how you came to be doing the work you're doing now specifically in regards to your new book.
Terry Roberts 3:10
Sure. Thank you so much. I am a lifelong educator. I grew up in very rural western North Carolina and am the product of something like six or seven generations of subsistence farmers going back to 1800, all in the same fairly close area, actually, the southern Appalachian Mountains. And as an adult, I've been a high school English teacher. I have worked in something called the principal's executive program as an executive coach to educational administrators. I've taught writing off and on my entire life. My PhD is in American literature, so I'm something of an example of the kind of thing we might talk about today. in that I have with my life, I must say, blended various disciplines. I'm a novelist in what I sometimes call another life, a parallel life.
Terry Roberts 4:14
I've written three novels and I'm hard at work on a fourth, but I'm also very interested in the educational system, as you said, and how we honor talent, how we recognize and appreciate talent. talent particularly when it's not traditional talent that identifies itself on test scores or by being the you know voted most likely to succeed in the senior class that kind of thing this new book i've written a number of non-fiction books about education a lot to do with dialogue socratic dialogue but this new book is a departure for me it flowed out of a lunchtime conversation that i had with a man named howard gardner for those of your listeners who know howard

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