TPP 267: How to Navigate School This Fall, with Phyllis Fagell
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Full-Tilt Parenting: Strategies, Insights, and Connection for Parents Raising Neurodivergent Children
43 min
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8 chapters
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What is the purpose of this episode and who is the guest?
more kids than you might imagine are going to come back with low motivation. And that's for a lot of reasons. Part of it is that overtaxed nervous system. Part of it is that their schedule has been so irregular. And so ramping back up to a level where they can have the stamina to manage both the emotional, logistical, and physical demands of a full in-person day for kids who are returning to school for the first time in 18 months, that is going to be extremely difficult.
Welcome to Tilt Parenting, a podcast featuring interviews and conversations aimed at inspiring, informing and supporting parents raising differently wired kids. I'm your host, Debbie Reber. I am back for a new season of the show and I am so excited for the next few months of episodes. I have been busy reading and researching and meeting with truly phenomenal leaders in the Differently Wired Revolution. And we're going to get into so many important topics. You're not going to want to miss a single episode. Be sure to subscribe to Tilt Parenting Podcast on Apple Podcasts or wherever you listen to podcasts. I'm really excited to be kicking off this fall season with my guest for this week's episode, Phyllis Fagel.
Phyllis is a K-8 school counselor in Washington, D.C., and a psychotherapist who works in private practice with children and teens. She's the author of Middle School Matters, a book that was born after her transition from working at an elementary school to a middle school. She realized there wasn't a lot of research on middle school-aged kids, so she did her own. Phyllis is also a frequent contributor to the Washington Post's On Parenting section and a columnist for the Association for Middle-Level Education and PDK International. Also, a side note, Phyllis has become a good friend over the past year and a half, and so I know on a deep level just how much wisdom she has to share with us. After you listen to the episode, I highly recommend you check out her articles because they are full of great information.
You'll find links to some of Phyllis's most recent articles, as well as a transcript of this conversation on the show notes page at tiltparenting.com slash session 267. In our conversation today, we discuss what sorts of issues kids, parents, and teachers are facing as we reenter this strange world of in-person classes while still, unfortunately, in the midst of a pandemic. Phyllis also shares a lot of great strategies for all of us to implement to set our kids up for success throughout the school year. Lots of takeaways, lots of hard-won wisdom, so get ready to soak in some goodness. Before I get to that, I wanted to share that beginning this week, I'm starting something called Playback Fridays.
When I reached out to people in my Tilt Together community on Facebook about who they would like to see on the podcast and what topics they'd like to hear about, I got a lot of suggestions for guests that I have already had on the show. And I realized that people who've joined this community, even in the last few years, most likely haven't had a chance to dig into the archives and see what I've got there. So I'm going to do it for you. Every Friday this season, I will be re-releasing a powerful episode from my library because seriously, there is gold in there. I've got episodes with the out-of-sync child author, Carol Kronowitz, author of The Explosive Child, Dr. Ross Green. and a psychologist and 2E expert, Dr. Devin McEachran.
And I've got a whole series of conversations with Asher back when he was 11 and 12, where he gives powerful first-person child POV to what it feels like to be a complicated, intense little human in a world that doesn't quite get him. Plus, I have episodes on navigating tricky dynamics with friends and family who don't get it, transitioning to homeschool, and so much more. If you're already subscribed to the podcast, you don't have to do anything. Just keep an eye out for new episodes on Fridays showing up in your podcast feed. And now without further ado, I am excited to officially begin the fall 2021 season with this special episode about navigating school this fall with Phyllis Fagel.
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Chapters
8 chapters
1
What is the purpose of this episode and who is the guest?
0:00–6:21
2
How does Phyllis describe her role as a school counselor and her “why” for the work?
6:21–11:54
3
What inspired Phyllis to write *Middle School Matters* and what gaps does the book fill?
11:54–19:45
4
Why are many students returning to school this fall experiencing low motivation?
19:45–25:44
5
What practical strategies can parents use to help kids rebuild stamina and routine?
25:44–31:19
6
How can families validate children’s feelings while encouraging problem‑solving?
31:19–37:22
7
What challenges are teachers facing and how can parents support them?
37:22–42:13
8
What final advice and resources does Phyllis share for navigating the upcoming school year?
42:13–42:56
Speakers
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