TPP 274: Emily Kircher-Morris on Stigma, Labels, and Neurodiversity Affirming Parenting
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Full-Tilt Parenting: Strategies, Insights, and Connection for Parents Raising Neurodivergent Children
34 min
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8 chapters
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What inspired Emily Kircher‑Morris to focus on twice‑exceptional learners?
But there are still very few professionals who understand how giftedness impacts those diagnoses and how you have to interpret those different scales. And it's really frustrating when I have a kid who I know is twice exceptional. And I send them and try to get them to go get an evaluation and wherever they end up because of insurance or who knows whatever reasons. And sometimes they come back with a diagnosis that's totally off base because they haven't even done a cognitive assessment or they don't understand how those cognitive assessments influence things.
Welcome to Tilt Parenting, a podcast featuring interviews and conversations aimed at inspiring, informing, and supporting parents raising differently wired kids. I'm your host, Debbie Rever. On this week's episode, I'm talking with Emily Kircher Morris, a specialist in twice exceptional or 2e learners and a leading voice in the neurodiversity movement. With dual master's degrees in counseling and education, Emily has taught in gifted classrooms, has been a school counselor, and is now in private practice as a licensed professional counselor, where she specializes in helping gifted and twice exceptional kids. Emily is the author of two books related to the development of two e learners, Teaching Twice Exceptional Learners in Today's Classroom, and Raising Twice Exceptional Children, a handbook for parents of neurodivergent gifted kids.
She's also the president and founder of the St. Louis-based nonprofit Gifted Support Network and host of the Neurodiversity Podcast, which explores parenting, counseling techniques, and best. Best practices for enriching the lives of neurodivergent people. During this conversation, we went deep into the stigma surrounding neurodivergent labels. We examined how the awareness of twice exceptionality has changed in school and screenings in the last decade, and looked at the skills Emily considers to be important for parents to help their neurodivergent kids with. Emily also shared some powerful advice on how to be neurodiversity affirming that I think can change the way we approach these unique learners, both in our communities and in our classrooms.
If you want to dive deeper into my conversation with Emily, please check out the show notes page on Tilt Parenting. There you'll find a bullet pointed list of key takeaways, a transcript of the whole episode, links to all the resources mentioned, and a podcast player with the episode broken down into chapters. So if you want to go back and re-listen to a specific piece of the conversation, you can easily find it. This week's episode can be found at tiltparenting.com slash session two seventy-four or just go to the podcast tab on Tilt Parenting and click on this episode at the top of the page. Thank you so much, and now here is my conversation with Emily. Hey Emily, welcome to the podcast. Thank you so much for having me.
Yeah. Well, I've been on your podcast, Mine Matters podcast, which I think you changed the name to the Neurodiversity Podcast. Is that correct?
Correct. Yes. Yes. We did change that. We changed it back, well, in January of Twenty twenty one, whatever year we're in now. And so I think it was a good a good opportunity for us to reach a bigger audience.
Yeah, I agree. So I bet a lot of listeners have listened to your podcast and are familiar with kind of who you are and the work that you do, but I'd love to know a little bit more about your personal story and how you came to be doing the work that you do in the world. Could you share that with us?
Sure. Well, I think so many of us in in the neurodiversity fr field or a lot of different fields kind of draw from our own life experiences and You know, I grew up as a a kid. I was identified as um ADHD when I was in fifth grade and I was also in a gifted program, but that really was very confusing for Me and for my parents and for my teachers. So um when I went into the field of education I knew that I wanted to make my classroom and the experiences for my students Something that was different than what I had experienced.
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Chapters
8 chapters
1
What inspired Emily Kircher‑Morris to focus on twice‑exceptional learners?
0:00–5:02
2
How has awareness of twice‑exceptionality changed in schools over the past decade?
5:02–9:19
3
Why do many professionals miss the impact of giftedness on neurodivergent diagnoses?
9:19–12:35
4
What does neurodiversity‑affirming parenting look like in practice?
12:35–16:01
5
Which five core skills does Emily recommend for supporting 2e children?
16:01–19:59
6
How can the I‑CAN acronym help children regulate their emotions?
19:59–24:17
7
What strategies does Emily suggest for bridging gifted, general, and special education classrooms?
24:17–27:37
8
Where can listeners find Emily’s books, podcast, and social media?
27:37–34:51
Speakers
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