TPP 303a: Dr. Joseph Lee Talks About the Importance of SEL / Social and Emotional Learning
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Hey, it's Debbie. For the month of March, Playback Friday episodes are focused on the complex social lives of our kids. If your child is struggling to find their people, navigating tricky peer dynamics, or just feeling out of step socially, these episodes from the archives are for you. Welcome to Tilled Parenting, a podcast featuring interviews and conversations aimed at inspiring, informing, and supporting parents raising differently wired kids. I'm your host, Debbie Rieber. One of the things I've been thinking a lot about over the past year is the importance of SEL or social and emotional learning in classrooms, as well as a recent increase in parental and political pushback that is putting the future of SELs in schools at risk.
I reached out to Dr. Joseph Lee, a psychiatrist with a special interest in social and emotional learning and helping people achieve what he calls optimal. Mental healthiness. We got into so many important topics, including the state of children and young adults' mental health today, demystifying what SEL or social emotional learning actually is, how it's best introduced in schools, what the pushback against SEL is really about, and what's at stake if our children aren't provided with social and emotional learning opportunities. A little bit more about my guest, Joe is a psychiatrist in private practice in Redondo Beach, California. He's also an educator in social and emotional learning and provides individual and group supervision to licensed therapists looking to add mental healthiness and SEL principles to their own practices.
He has a medical doctorate from the University of California, Los Angeles School of Medicine. Thanks so much. And here is my conversation with Doctor Joseph Lee about social and emotional learning. Hey Joe, welcome to the podcast.
Hi W, thanks for helping me.
Yeah, I am really looking forward to this conversation and so happy we are able to squeeze it into the summer season because I think it's a really important topic. It's very current. A lot to get into, but before we do that, I always ask my guests to introduce themselves in their own way. And also as part of that, I love this idea of learning more about your personal why. What got you into doing this work and what you love about doing it so So much.
My broad sort of professional background is that I am a psychiatrist, but my actual day-to-day clinical practice, which is not the case for most psychiatrists, is that day-to-day practice is as a therapist. So I kind of do both. But I am a full-time therapist. I have a full-time private practice. I've been doing that now, including if include my residency for over 20 years. So professionally, that's sort of my background. Background. And then um after sort of my formal training, starting my psychotherapy practice a few years early on is when I became a parent. Which is an interesting sort of transformative life process, right? Uh and then I think as you raise kids, then sometimes the things that you might have learned, I don't know, more academically about child development, you know, what helps people thrive, what is it really to be like mentally healthy?
They all kind of feel like super relevant 'cause now you got your own kid and you kinda wanna Do right by them. And so I would say that that was actually a different learning process outside of my formal sort of education as a psychiatrist. Where I think a big shift, you know, for me, maybe especially coming from psychiatry, which is in a medical model, which is sort of like how you help when things go wrong, right? Versus I think becoming a parent, you want things to go. go well, right?
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8 chapters
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What is the main topic discussed in this episode?
0:00–5:27
2
Why is the mental health of children and young adults a crisis today?
5:27–8:21
3
What exactly is Social‑Emotional Learning (SEL) and how is it defined?
8:21–12:42
4
How can SEL be woven into traditional school curricula without adding a separate subject?
12:42–17:34
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What research and evidence support the benefits of SEL for students?
17:34–21:44
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Why are parents and politicians pushing back against SEL in U.S. schools?
21:44–28:47
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Is SEL taught in other countries and how does it differ internationally?
28:47–35:43
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What systemic barriers prevent schools from fully integrating SEL?
35:43–42:49
Speakers
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