TPP 317a: A Conversation About Autistic Burnout with Neurodivergent Support Specialist Kristy Forbes

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Debbie Reber 0:24
Maybelline. Hey, it's Debbie. Playback Friday episodes during the month of June will be focused on PDA, pathological demand avoidance, or as many in the community prefer, persistent drive for autonomy. Whether you're brand new to learning about PDA or you are deep in the journey already, I guarantee you will find some good strategies here and also feel very seen in your experience. Welcome to Tilt Parenting, a podcast featuring interviews and conversations aimed at inspiring, informing, and supporting parents raising differently wired kids. I'm your host, Debbie Reber, and welcome to the winter season of 2023. I am so happy to be back in the podcast chair and to be able to share with you the interviews I've been working so hard on over the past few months.
Debbie Reber 1:14
And And I am really honored to kick off the season with a powerful conversation about autistic burnout with Christy Forbes. In my hunches, many of you are already familiar with Christy Forbes' incredible work in the neurodiversity space through her resource, In Tune Pathways. Christy's work is informed by her extensive professional experience as an educator, as an integration aid to children with social, emotional, and behavioral differences, and as a childhood behavioral and family support specialist. Christy is a formally identified autistic attention deficit hyperactivity disorder and pathological demand avoidance, as well as being a parent to four neurodivergent children. So for today's episode, Christy and I talked about what exactly autistic burnout is and how it presents, why deep rest is critical for someone experiencing autistic burnout, and how autistic burnout is differentiated from mood disorders or depression.
Debbie Reber 2:11
We also talk frankly about the challenges of seeing burnout in autistic children through a neuro normative lens and how that may lead to strategies and therapies that might just be the opposite of what a child in autistic burnout actually needs. Okay, and now here is my conversation with Christy Forbes on autistic burnout. Hey, Christy, welcome back to the podcast. Thank you so much for having me. I'm so excited to be back. It has been a couple of years and actually, it's been over three years since you were on the show. And I went back and looked at that episode and it's been downloaded about 30,000 times. So it's pretty high up there in terms of my more popular episodes. And that didn't surprise me when I looked because your work has just kind of exploded.
Debbie Reber 3:04
And the time since we last talked, I'd love if you could even just give us a little update what has been happening in your world with Intune Pathways and the work that you're doing with parents.
Kristy Forbes 3:16
That's amazing. It's amazing. But also I'm not surprised because I know that there's such a need for families to be validated in their experience as well. And I think when we last spoke, I had just started out and I was coming from a space of wanting to share my story as both a parent and a neurodivergent adult. Since then, I have been in community with parents hundreds and hundreds of families. I've engaged in private consultation. I offer more programs and services now, but I also, I became incorporated and started a company. I employ 13 autistic parents of autistic children. We work as a team mentoring other families in a But yeah, it's an honor to do the work.
Debbie Reber 4:21
That's incredible. First of all, 13 employees and doing this work. And again, I know so many families in the TILG community turn to you, especially if they have kids who have a PDA profile. And I'm always like, talk to Christy, go to Christy. You are such a leader. And I just want to acknowledge the way that you show up.

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