TPP 337: Phyllis Fagell on Raising Resilient Teens in Turbulent Times
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Full-Tilt Parenting: Strategies, Insights, and Connection for Parents Raising Neurodivergent Children
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Even if to an adult observer it looks like they're blending in just fine, that they are part of the conversation, that they have people to sit with at lunch, they all are complaining that they feel awkward, they're all struggling to figure out how do you turn a school friend into a real friend. Or how do I deal with the fact that I'm lonely? And when you dive deeper, it might be that they're lonely in one context or not another. So maybe they're fine at school, but when they're on their sports team with a bunch of travel players who all go to school together who you don't know from school, maybe in that context you feel guilty. And so it's an opportunity to really get a little bit granular with kids and try to figure out
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Welcome to Tilt Parenting, a podcast featuring interviews and conversations aimed at inspiring, informing, and supporting parents raising differently wired kids. I'm your host, Debbie Rieber. This week, I'm bringing back to the show school counselor, therapist, and author Phyllis Fagel. The last time Phyllis was on the podcast, we talked about the difficulties of going back to in-person school after schools reopen in the fall of 2021. It seems like such a long time ago, but the reality is that our kids are still very much dealing with the aftermath of the isolation, the lack of structure, and other big changes that the pandemic forced on them. So I wanted to invite Phyllis back to talk about that and her new book, Middle School Superpowers: Raising Resilient Twens in Turbulent Times, which she wrote as a response to what she's seen.
in her work with children in the aftermath of COVID. During this interview, we talk about why this generation of tweens is more insecure, vulnerable, and eager to please perhaps than past generations, effective strategies for helping kids who might be rigid thinkers become more flexible, and how parents can coach their kids around navigating, forming, and maintaining healthy friendships. And that really just scratches the surface. I can't overstate how much wisdom and insight Phyllis had. for us both through her book and in what she shares in this episode. If you don't already know Phyllis's work, here's a little bit of background. Phyllis Fagel is a licensed clinical professional counselor in a school in Washington, D.C., a therapist who works with children and teens in private practice, and an author and journalist.
She is the author of Middle School Matters: The 10 Key Skills Kids Need to Thrive in Middle School and Beyond, and How Parents Can Help, and her most recent book, Middle School Superpowers, Raising. Resilient tweens in turbulent times. She's also a frequent contributor to the Washington Post and freelances for publications such as Psychology Today, CNN, Working Mother, US News and World Report, and Your Teen. Thanks so much, and now here is my conversation with Phyllis on middle school superpowers. Hello Phyllis, welcome back to the podcast. Thanks, Debbie. It's so good to be here. Yeah, I was going back and checking out the last time you were on the show. It was such a different time because we were talking about going back to school in this unusual time of COVID.
It's such a good conversation. Listeners, you should go back and listen to it because it's good any time of year. And Phyllis is in the trenches with kids, school counselor, a therapist. She has so much wisdom to share. So anyway, go back and listen to that episode. But today I'm very excited to talk about your new book, which is so good. I had a chance to read it. It's called Middle School Superpowers Raising Resilient Tweens in Turbulent Times.
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Chapters
6 chapters
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What is the main topic discussed in this episode?
0:00–6:01
2
Why are today’s tweens more insecure, vulnerable, and eager to please than past generations?
6:01–22:50
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What motivated Phyllis Fagell to write *Middle School Superpowers*?
22:50–34:58
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How does the pandemic amplify the “extreme tweens” phenomenon?
34:58–38:57
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Why might neurodivergent tweens be especially resilient post‑pandemic?
38:57–45:28
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What is the “Super Flexibility” superpower and how can parents teach it?
45:28–46:09
Speakers
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