TPP 342: Dr. Devorah Heitner on Parenting Kids Who Are Growing Up in Public

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Why is privacy in kids’ texts and online chats essential for healthy development?

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Devorah Heitner 0:26
I do think there is a place for reading, you know, maybe a new texter's text with them, for example, but that's more about a mentoring conversation where you're doing it with them. What I don't think we want to be doing is covertly surveilling, because when we covertly surveil, we're gonna get a lot of information that we won't know how to interpret. And how do you guide a kid that you've covertly surveilled? You can really only play that game once.
Debbie Reber 0:52
I'm Debbie Reber, and welcome to Tild Parenting, a podcast featuring interviews and conversations aimed at inspiring, informing, and supporting parents raising differently wired kids. I'm so excited to be bringing back to the show my friend, colleague, and my most trusted mentor when it comes to all things kids and tech and screens, Dr. Devora Heitner. If Devorah's name's familiar to you, she has joined me a few times before to talk about priorities. Prioritizing mentoring over monitoring when it comes to screen time, and what to do when our kids go down a potentially unsafe internet rabbit hole. But today we're going to be talking about such a pressing consideration for anyone raising a kid these days.
Debbie Reber 1:31
What it means for today's generation of kids to grow up with very public lives and coming of age in a digital world where so many aspects of their lives are online and available for public consumption, not to mention that much of their important work of identity formation is being shaped by the media and technology that they're interacting with. Devore gets into all of this in her brand new and I think essential book for any parent Growing Up in Public Coming of Age in a Digital World. For this conversation, I asked Davora to talk us through what I see as some of the more pressing issues for parents like us, including how to balance a child's right to privacy in their texts and online lives with valid concerns about online influences and engagement when that child is dealing with anxiety, depression, or other mental health challenges.
Debbie Reber 2:21
The impact of social media on kids who may already be struggling to fit in. Yeah. And how many homework and grading apps used by schools may actually be undermining our kids' development of executive function skills and creating additional stress for parents. And that just scratches the surface. In addition to her new book, Growing Up in Public, Devorah is also the author of Screenwise: Helping Kids Thrive and Survive in Their Digital World. Her work has appeared in the New York Times, The Washington Post, The Wall Street Journal, and CNN Opinion. She has a PhD in media technology and society from Northwestern University and has taught at DePaul and Northwestern. A fair warning, this is a longer episode than usual, but it's all such important food for thought for any parent raising a child in today's digital age.
Debbie Reber 3:11
So here is my conversation with Deborah. Hey Deborah, welcome back to the podcast. I'm so glad to be
Devorah Heitner 3:23
here.
Debbie Reber 3:24
Well, I just wanna say also this is your third time back of the show. That pretty much ranks you as one of the most frequent guests of the show. I don't know if that is uh something you should be getting an award for or if congratulations are or in order, but just wanted to point that out.
Devorah Heitner 3:38
I feel like I won an award for short now. It's its own reward and the show has been such an inspiration to me and it's one of the podcasts that I love to listen to the most. So it feels like really great to be in the conversation with the folks that you've been having.
Debbie Reber 3:53
That's awesome. Well, thank you. And listeners, by the way, before I even dive in, I do want to share that I will have links to those past visits with Deborah in the show notes page.

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