TPP 345: Julie Skonick On Understanding & Supporting Gifted and Distractible Kids
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Full-Tilt Parenting: Strategies, Insights, and Connection for Parents Raising Neurodivergent Children
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What is twice‑exceptionality and why do many people misunderstand gifted‑and‑distractible kids?
And I remember meeting with this teacher team for this middle school age child who was gifted and very gifted in math, but the advanced math person did not think he was gifted, challenged the fact that he was gifted because He had a processing speed difference. And she literally looked at me in our team meeting and said, Wait a minute. Are you saying you can be gifted with processing speed challenges? And I said, Yes, that is the one and only thing I want you to know from today is yeah. Like I needed her to get over that shock.
I'm Debbie Rieber and welcome to Tilt Parenting, a podcast featuring interviews and conversations aimed at inspiring, informing, and supporting parents raising differently wired kids. The conversation around twice exceptionality has advanced a lot in the past few years, but there still exists substantial resistance and misunderstanding about what it means to be 2e. As my guest today, Julie Scholnick, writes about in her new book Gifted and Distractable, it's a widely held misconception that intellectual ability and social and emotional success go hand in hand, which is why kids who are gifted and have simultaneous learning differences like ADHD, autism, or dyslexia are often not fully seen and supported by parents, teachers, and themselves.
In a world Where these complex learners are often labeled lazy, scattered, attention seeking, and a problem that can't be solved, I am totally behind Julie's mission to passionately guide parents of gifted and distractable children to bring out the best and raise self-confidence in their 2e kids. And in today's conversation, Julie shares some of her best insights and ideas about how we can reimagine the world through our child's unique. perspective so we can help them thrive. If you regularly listen to this show, there's a good chance Julie Scholnik's work is already on your radar. She's the founder of With Understanding Comes Calm and hosts the Haystack 2e Adult membership group, which welcomes all 2e adult needles, and the Let's Talk 2e Parent Empowerment Groups, produces virtual conferences, and publishes Gifted and Distractable, a free weekly newsletter.
And her book, Gifted Gifted and distractable, understanding, supporting, and advocating for your twice exceptional child literally comes out the day this episode is released. So if you are raising a twice exceptional kid, I highly encourage you to grab a copy after listening to our conversation. Julie really did share all of her experience and insights and hard-won wisdom inside for all of us to benefit from. Here is my conversation with Jolie. Hey Julie, welcome back to the podcast. Thank you for having me, Debbie. I'm so excited to be here. Yes, I'm excited to dive into your new book, which again I feel so lucky because I always get advanced copies of these incredible books coming out in the world.
So I have had a chance to to read this, even though as we're talking, it's not out still for maybe five weeks. So we're gonna get into that. But before we do. You came on the show a number of years ago to talk about your work with understanding comes calm and supporting twice exceptional kids, both in families and in schools. And I really would love to just know what you have seen in the past couple of years in terms of higher levels of understanding and just awareness of the unique profiles of these kids. Cause I feel like the landscape has changed a lot. But I always say that might just be who I'm hanging out with. So what have you noticed in your work?
Right. We're in a little bit of an echo chamber. But my clients are all over the world. And because I train teachers as well, I have sort of this view. And actually I also mentor two E adults. So you become an adult at 18. And I really have, I feel like a holistic view of the landscape. And I will say on the positive side, which I love to lean on positive, and the positive side I was just at a conference supporting the emotional needs of the gifted, and I remember back in the day. When you were hard pressed to find one talk about two e.
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Chapters
8 chapters
1
What is twice‑exceptionality and why do many people misunderstand gifted‑and‑distractible kids?
0:00–7:20
2
How has awareness of 2e learners changed in recent years according to Julie’s experience?
7:20–13:21
3
What are the three parts of Julie’s “cycle for success” framework for supporting 2e children?
13:21–19:39
4
Which common misconceptions about gifted children does Julie address and correct?
19:39–24:56
5
What parenting styles tend to surface when raising twice‑exceptional kids and how can they be shifted?
24:56–30:25
6
How can parents identify and choose neuro‑diversity‑affirming therapists or modalities for their 2e child?
30:25–35:04
7
What are Julie’s favorite practical strategies from her new book for everyday support?
35:04–39:26
8
What is Julie’s biggest hope for the impact of *Gifted and Distractible* on families and educators?
39:26–39:33
Speakers
1 identifiedMore from Full-Tilt Parenting: Strategies, Insights, and Connection for Parents Raising Neurodivergent Children
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