TPP 391: Perry LaRoque on What Neurodivergent Students Need to Successfully Navigate College

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Perry LaRoque 0:26
The classroom is a place where a lot of information is offered, whether that's lecture or whether that's books or readings or class discussions, but nobody is telling anyone how to get that information or how to use that information. And so to be empowered or to understand that you, as the learner, need to be empowered in order to get in there and access that information is so fundamentally important that the responsibility for learning is on the learner, not on the teacher anymore. And so how do we start to get kids to think that way? That if this material is being presented to me, I want it, how do I remove the barriers to go and get it without expecting people to do it for me?
Debbie Reber 1:08
I'm Debbie Rieber and welcome to Tilt Parenting, a podcast featuring interviews and conversations aimed at inspiring, informing, and supporting parents raising differently wired kids. If you have a child approaching their college years, this episode is packed with invaluable advice. I'm thrilled to have Dr. Perry LaRocque here to discuss what neurodivergent students need to successfully navigate college and his book Taking Flight College for Students with Disabilities. Disabilities, diverse learners, and their families. Perry is the founder and president of Mansfield Hall, which provides comprehensive residential, academic, social, and independent living skills support for students who are going to college.
Debbie Reber 1:45
He's also the co-founder of the College Steps Program, a nonprofit with the mission of providing post-secondary education to students with developmental disabilities in various locations across the East Coast. So, what does a successful college experience actually mean? Well, Perry broke it down for us, emphasizing the importance of the core values of awareness, regulation, expression, and dynamic determination. Perry also highlighted the essential skills for independence at schools, such as frustration tolerance and the importance of seeking help when needed, and explored some of the unexpected challenges students might face, from managing dorm life to maintaining proper sleep hygiene. We also discussed the various resources available on most college campuses and how students can maximize these support services and why meeting with professors can actually be a game changer for a struggling student, something I wish I had known back when I was a struggling student.
Debbie Reber 2:41
We all know that our kids are way more than the grades they get at school, and this conversation is full of insights on how to approach the college experience more holistically. I hope you enjoy it. Hey Perry, welcome to the podcast.
Perry LaRoque 2:59
Thank you so much for having me.
Debbie Reber 3:01
Once again, after 380 episodes, this is a new topic for the show, which always makes me excited. So we have a lot to talk about today. Before we get into that, of course I read your formal bio, but I was like for my guests to talk about themselves in their own words. Like how would you describe what you do in the world and connected to that, your personal why for doing it?
Perry LaRoque 3:21
Yeah, sure. So I came from a long line of educators. My dad was a school psychologist. My mom's a preschool teacher. My brother was a school psychologist. And now he's a partner in the work I'm doing now. And just sort of always went down the path or considered the path of education. And early on, I'd made the decision that I was more interested in working with students with disabilities and went to the University of Wisconsin. Wisconsin to get my teaching degree. And there was just such more of a social justice bend on that education that I think I kind of came to education from, you know, looking at access and making sure that all kids were able to get the education that was appropriate for them and what they needed.

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