TPP 417: A Conversation with Dr. Gina Riley on Self-Determination Theory & Motivation

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What is self‑determination theory and why does it matter for motivation?

Dr. Gina Riley 0:00
Autonomy support doesn't always mean that you have to agree with the decision your child or teen or young adult has made. It just means that you are there, right? You are there if they fall, you are there if they have made a mistake, you are there to talk things out in a truly non-judgmental way. It just means your presence is there. There, no matter what. And what autonomy support does is it allows individuals to make mistakes. And we all know that we learn. By making mistakes, right? We learn how to be. And no one's gonna have the truly perfect life, even though that's what we wish for everybody, right? And especially for our children. Mistakes are a part of life.
Debbie Reber 0:51
I'm Debbie Rieber, and welcome to Tild Parenting, a podcast featuring interviews and conversations aimed at inspiring, informing, and supporting parents raising differently wired kids. We have touched on the theory of self-determination on this show before, but today I'm really excited to dedicate an entire episode to this topic. Joining me for this deep dive is Dr. Gina Riley, an expert in self-determination theory and motivation. This conversation will resonate with so many of you because it beautifully ties into themes we often explore here, like low-demand parenting and fostering our kids' natural passions and strengths. Dr. Raleigh is an educational psychologist, program director, and clinical professor of adolescent special education at Cooney Hunter College.
Debbie Reber 1:36
Her extensive research on homeschooling, unschooling, and supported decision making. Which is an alternative to guardianship for students with disabilities, has been instrumental in advancing conversations around personalized and flexible learning models. She's also the author of three books: Unschooling, Exploring Learning Beyond the Classroom, The Homeschooling Starter Guide, and The Joys of Self Determined Living, a collection of essays. In this episode, you're about to listen to, Gina explains the theory of. Self-determination and dives into the science behind why it's so impactful, particularly for neurodivergent kids. We explore how it connects with autonomy supportive parenting and get into the three tenets of cognitive evaluation theory, which examines what actually fosters intrinsic motivation.
Debbie Reber 2:25
We also tackle the hot topic of whether extrinsic motivators like stickers and rewards have a place and how to genuinely connect with our kids' interests even when they differ from our own. This is such a rich and practical conversation full of insights that I really hope you find valuable. I know that I did. And before I get to the interview, I have a quick favor to ask you. There are so many podcasts nowadays, many of which I listen to myself. And I would really like to make sure that parents who are newer to this journey of raising neurodivergent kids are able to easily find and know about Tilled Parenting. So if you're listening to this and This show, Till Parenting, has played an important role in supporting your family.
Debbie Reber 3:06
It's given you some insights. It's helped you feel less alone. It's introduced you to some experts that have had ideas and strategies that have really changed your family's life. Would you do me a favor and tell somebody about it? Tell other parents in your community who are navigating this journey. Tell other parents at school who have neurodivergent kids. Help me spread the word and make sure that this show is easily found by the parents who need it most, especially those who are newer to the journey and now have so many different shows and resources to choose from. I believe so much in what we're doing here. And I want to make sure that it connects with the listeners who would most benefit from it.
Debbie Reber 3:45
So thank you so much for that. Okay, and now without further ado, here is my conversation with Dr. Gina Riley. Hey Gina, welcome to the podcast. Hi, thank you for having me. Thank you for responding to my cold email pitched to you.

How does Dr. Gina Riley define the three tenets of cognitive evaluation theory (competence, autonomy, relatedness)?

Debbie Reber 4:08
My favorite. It's amazing. I really appreciate it. And I'm really looking forward to exploring self-determination theory and motivation with you today.

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