TPP 422: Dr. Amy Laurent on Shifting the Conversation Away from Emotional Regulation and to Energy Regulation
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Full-Tilt Parenting: Strategies, Insights, and Connection for Parents Raising Neurodivergent Children
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What is energy regulation and why is it more accessible than emotional regulation for autistic individuals?
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One of the things that energy allows us to do, it allows us to like strip away any like positive or negative connotations and just focus on like, where's your energy now? And is it a match for the activity you're in? So it's not, it's a good or a bad emotion. It's do you have a match or not? Right. And if you have a match, great. We'll work to maintain that. And if you don't have a match, we need a tool or strategy. And that might be something that I'm going to support you with through co-regulation or mutual regulation or something you can do for yourself.
I'm Debbie Reber and welcome to Tilt Parenting, a podcast featuring interviews and conversations aimed at inspiring, informing and supporting parents raising differently wired kids. And Happy New Year. I have some really special guests to share with you this year. And I'm thrilled to kick things off with what I can only describe as an absolutely fascinating conversation with Dr. Amy Laurent about energy. Specifically, the power and freedom in shifting the focus from emotional regulation to energy regulation when supporting neurodivergent individuals, including ourselves. Amy is a co-author of the CERT's model and frequently lectures internationally. She is deeply passionate about neurodiversity and helping others honor and understand the implications of different ways of being in navigating the physical and social world.
And you might remember Amy from her last appearance on the show with Dr. Jacqueline Feedy, where they talked about their Autistic Holistic Partnership Autism Level Up, which is a collaboration dedicated to providing education, accessible resources, and practical strategies to increase active engagement for autistic individuals and their communities. If you haven't heard that one yet, it is a great listen. You can find it at tillparenting.com slash session 328 or through the link in the show notes for this episode. But in this conversation, we dive into Amy and Jacqueline's latest resource. It's actually a manual. It's called Energy. The Framework, Tools, Strategies, and Logic to Support Regulation.
It was designed with autistic and neurodivergent people in mind, but it's perfectly suitable for all neurotypes, and it introduces ways to understand and support energy levels for yourself or others through tools, worksheets, and practical strategies. I loved this resource. It was such a treat to get to explore its concepts with Amy. So In this conversation, Amy shares why energy regulation is often a more accessible and relatable framework than emotional regulation for many autistic people. She talks about how the energy meter helps individuals identify their energy states and foster self-awareness, and how parents like us can better co-regulate and connect without judgment by recognizing and reflecting on these energy states.
We talk a lot on the show about becoming fluent in your child. And what we're covering today takes that concept to a whole new level. You can probably tell I was pretty jazzed up about this conversation. I hope you find it as insightful and inspiring as I do. Hey, Amy, welcome back to the podcast. Thank you so much for having me. I'm so excited to be here. I am excited to talk about your new manual, which when I saw that you and Jack did a special Facebook video with Mona, someone who we both love and adore, there was so much good in that post. I was like, I need to know more. I need to be a part of this. And I'm just so excited to dive into this. But let me back up for my listeners who don't know what I'm talking about.
So when I heard that you publish, it's called Energy, the Framework, Tools, Strategies, and Logic to Support Regulation as this new manual.
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8 chapters
1
What is energy regulation and why is it more accessible than emotional regulation for autistic individuals?
0:00–5:46
2
How did Amy and Jacquelyn develop the Energy: Framework, Tools, Strategies & Logic manual?
5:46–11:05
3
What is the Energy Meter and how does it help identify a person’s current energy state?
11:05–17:44
4
How can parents use the Energy Meter to co‑regulate and support their child without judgment?
17:44–24:50
5
What are the different formats of the Energy Meter (e.g., 3‑level, 6‑level, visual, 3D‑printed) and how do you choose the right one?
24:50–32:25
6
How does the ‘Person‑in‑Context’ tool create a profile to match energy needs with activities and environments?
32:25–37:24
7
What strategies does the manual suggest for handling dysregulation in the moment versus long‑term planning?
37:24–39:10
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Where can listeners access the manual and additional resources from Autism Level UP!?
39:10–39:22
Speakers
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