TPP 442: Flex School Founder Jacqui Byrne on Supporting the Full Arc of a 2e Child's Life
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Full-Tilt Parenting: Strategies, Insights, and Connection for Parents Raising Neurodivergent Children
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Basically, behaviors that we see in two we kids. Aren't behavior problems. Their identity crisis it's an identity crisis for that child. So if people can think of one thing in a classroom that When they see a behavior problem, it's not a behavior problem. It's an identity crisis. And to go deeper because there's something else going on there for students like this. behaviors of communication for all kids, right? And it's a little more complicated with kids who are both very bright and who have challenges.
I'm Debbie Reber, and this is Tilt Parenting, a podcast featuring interviews and conversations aimed at inspiring, informing, and supporting parents raising differently wired kids. Today I'm talking with Jackie Byrne. She's the founder of Flex School, which is a pioneering educational model designed specifically for 2e or twice exceptional kids. Jackie is an award winning educational leader, a sought after speaker, and a Passionate advocate for neurodivergent learners. She's also the parent of twice exceptional kids herself, and she built Flex School not just as an educator, but as a mom determined to find a better way for her own children who were struggling at school. So this is Jackie's second time on the show.
The last time was actually six years ago, and I encourage you to go back and listen to that one too. But I wanted to bring Jackie back to talk about what she's Learned and observed in supporting the learning and growth of twice exceptional kids over the years. So in this episode, we get into all kinds of topics, including the story behind Flex School's creation and the philosophy that drives it, the power of talent-based learning, and how teachers and schools can become places of trust, safety, and joy for 2e kids who often feel like misfits in. Many educational environments. Jackie also shares insights into how behavioral issues in 2e students are actually often identity crises, as well as what it means to support the emotional development and growth of these complex kids across the full arc of their lives.
Jackie's perspective is honest, it's empowering, and it's grounded in both research and real-life experience. You'll really hear her passion, the care she has for these students, and how much she enjoys these kids just as they are. I hope you find it as inspirational as I did. So here's my conversation with Jackie Byrne. Hey Jackie, welcome back to the podcast.
Thank you so much, Debbie. I'm I'm really happy to be back and talk. Things have changed. It's great.
Things have changed. Yes. Before we even get into this, I am gonna invite listeners to go back and listen to the episode from when you were on the show back in two thousand nineteen, which just seems like a lifetime ago. We've been through a lot as a world, as a country since So listeners, go back and check that out. I'll have a link in the show notes page. There are likely many people listening to this who aren't familiar with you, who haven't listened to that episode. So could you talk a little bit about who you are in the world and why you created the Flex school and your work in this space?
Sure. I have four kids, including a set of triplets, and I'm a single parent, so home schooling was not really an option. And two of the triplets were really doing poorly in sixth grade and they wouldn't do the assignment if they thought it was stupid. They If they did deign to do it, they'd forget to turn it in. And dropped out of gifted and talented. It was not going well, but at first Look, sixth grade's a good time to learn how to play school. And it's a good time if you're gonna fail something, that's a really good time to learn your lesson.
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Chapters
4 chapters
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What is the main topic discussed in this episode?
0:00–5:01
2
Who is Jacqui Byrne and why did she create FlexSchool for 2e learners?
5:01–16:48
3
What challenges did Jacqui face with her own 2e children that inspired FlexSchool’s founding?
16:48–23:39
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How does FlexSchool’s talent‑based learning model meet 2e students where they are?
23:39–43:08
Speakers
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