TPP 446: Therapist Jude Carn on Internal Family Systems (IFS) and Neurodivergence
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Full-Tilt Parenting: Strategies, Insights, and Connection for Parents Raising Neurodivergent Children
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What is Internal Family Systems (IFS) and why is it relevant for neurodivergent people?
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One thing that IFS can be really helpful to work through and reconcile with is helping these little managers. And I'm calling them little because they started doing this job when we were kids. So they've been doing it forever. Getting to know them and updating them on the neurodivergence in the system is huge. Because, you know, these little managers, these never again, these proactive, I just want to stop this system getting any more shame system. Because ableism is internalized. So they are often desperately, desperately trying to get us to just, air quotes again for anyone listening, be normal. And they don't even know that the game is rigged from the start.
I'm Debbie Reber, and this is Tilt Parenting, a podcast featuring interviews and conversations aimed at inspiring, informing, and supporting parents raising differently wired kids. You may have heard me mention IFS, or Internal Family Systems, in podcast episodes before. My guest is going to go into much more detail, but briefly. IFS is a powerful, compassionate, therapeutic framework for understanding the different parts within ourselves, like the inner critic, the protector, the people pleaser. And when using IFS, we can learn how to befriend and heal those different parts so we can show up more fully as our true selves. I am really fascinated by IFS at the moment. I have seen how transformative it can be in helping people truly heal and change their lives for the better.
And in my research, I came across a therapist who not only feels the same, but she has fully stepped into the intersection of IFS and neurodivergence. So of course, I had to invite them onto the show. So in today's episode, you'll meet Jude Karn. She's a certified level three internal family systems psychotherapist, an international consultant and passionate advocate for neurodiversity. Jude brings a powerful blend of lived experience and deep professional expertise to their work. And in this episode, we're exploring how IFS can be a transformative model for neurodivergent individuals and for the families who support them. So in this conversation, Jude is going to walk us through the core concepts of IFS.
She explains how this framework can be especially healing for neurodivergent people who often grow up feeling misunderstood or judged or exiled.
How did Jude Carn become a Level 3 IFS therapist and what sparked her personal interest?
And she shares insights on how IFS offers a respectful, empowering approach to trauma that allows each person to move at their own pace. Jude explains that recognizing and befriending one's own parts can lead to deeper self-acceptance and a better relationship with ourselves. Imagine what a difference it would make for all of our neurodivergent kids to fundamentally know that they're not broken and that no parts of them are bad. An IFS can be a really affirming starting point. I hope you get as excited about it as I do after this conversation. And if you gain a lot from this episode, please consider sharing it with someone in your community who might also benefit from listening. Don't forget to check out the show notes pages where I will have all the resources we discussed today and links to connecting with Jude and learning more about IFS.
And with that, here is my conversation with Jude Karn on neurodivergence and internal family systems. Hey Jude, welcome to the podcast. Hey, thank you for having me. Well, thank you for accepting my offer. You got emailed by a stranger and I'm like, will you please come on my show? I've been wanting to for a while have a conversation about IFS, internal family systems. I refer to it sometimes in conversation, but I am not an expert in it. And I just think there's a lot that we can discuss today that would be really interesting to my listeners.
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Chapters
8 chapters
1
What is Internal Family Systems (IFS) and why is it relevant for neurodivergent people?
0:00–2:51
2
How did Jude Carn become a Level 3 IFS therapist and what sparked her personal interest?
2:51–6:15
3
What are the core concepts of IFS – parts, protectors, exiles and the Self?
6:15–11:38
4
How does IFS explain the purpose of every coping strategy or ‘manager’ part?
11:38–16:27
5
Why is traditional therapy often inaccessible for neurodivergent clients?
16:27–22:55
6
How can IFS be adapted creatively for neurodivergent adults and children?
22:55–28:41
7
What practical tools (cards, visual exercises, language) help families use IFS with kids?
28:41–33:56
8
Where can listeners find more resources, books, and Jude’s own work on IFS?
33:56–42:43
Speakers
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