TPP 448: A Conversation with Dr. Megan Anna Neff About Autistic Burnout
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Full-Tilt Parenting: Strategies, Insights, and Connection for Parents Raising Neurodivergent Children
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What is autistic burnout and why is it often confused with depression?
I'm Debbie Reber, and this is Full Tilt Parenting, a podcast for parents raising neurodivergent kids. Today, I'm talking with Dr. Megan Ananath, a clinical psychologist, the host of the Divergent Conversations podcast, and the creator of Neurodivergent Insights, where she shares fantastic, well-researched, and accessible resources for the neurodivergent community. Megan Anna is also the author of Self Care for Autistic People, which we talked about in a previous episode, and her newest book, The Autistic Burnout Workbook. So that's what we're going to talk about today, autistic burnout, what it is, how it shows up, especially in kids, and why it's so often confused with depression and how to determine what is what.
We'll also be getting into the realities of recovery from burnout, the importance of understanding each person's baseline, and how to support kids through burnout in ways that are truly helpful. It's a fantastic conversation. If you've experienced burnout, if you're concerned your autistic child is experiencing burnout, this is a must listen. And I would love your help in spreading this conversation far and wide. So here is my conversation with Dr. Megan Ananeth on autistic burnout. Hey, Megan Anna, welcome back to the podcast. Hello, it's so good to be back. It's good to see you. It's nice to see you too. I'm excited to get into your brand new book, which I just read and thought was so helpful. Listeners, I'm going to have an extensive show notes page for this episode.
I already know that, but please go back and listen to the episodes I've done with Megan Anna in the past. I think this is your third or fourth appearance on the show. And also check out some of Megan Anna's resources because there's a lot. Your sub stack is fantastic. You have your own podcast, your Instagram. There's a lot of great content that you're putting out. I learned so much from you. And today's conversation, I'm sure will be no different. So do you want to take a few minutes and do your own introduction to you and the context for the book that we're going to be talking about today?
Yeah.
Yes. And first of all, thank you. That was a very generous introduction to me, my work. And likewise, I equally am so appreciative of your work and all that you teach in the parenting world. See, I did a social lubricant thing there where like you gave me a compliment. I responded with a compliment. We can do this. Yeah, you've got this. About me, about this work, yeah, I'm Megan Anna, clinical psychologist. And my backstory is that I discovered that I was autistic at the age of 37 after one of my children. And then a year later, discovered the ADHD. And started Neurodivergent Insights because I realized, like, wow, we're missing so many adults in my field. Because my training did not prepare me to see myself or my child.
And I know that this discovery... Not to be overly dramatic, but I know that for myself and for many, it is life-changing and often life-saving. And so that's why I started this work about four years ago. After discovering I was autistic, I started Googling every weird experience I'd ever had, like autism and sleep. And I was like, sure enough, there's a lot of research around why I've always had terrible sleep or even things like sleep paralysis. Oh, that's more common for us. So part of my early research was learning about autistic burnout. And that was a pretty big aha moment for me because I've always struggled with depression and fatigue. And I was able to look back at my history and see how a lot of the depressive episodes I've had started with autistic burnout.
So this became one of the first really big theories or ideas I started working on in the work I did with Neurodivergent Insights. The first digital workbook I ever made was an autistic burnout workbook. It was terrible. It was terribly designed. I'm so sorry for people who bought the early version. But that was the very first digital resource that I ever created and put out for sale. And then most recently was Simon & Schuster.
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Chapters
4 chapters
1
What is autistic burnout and why is it often confused with depression?
0:01–9:15
2
How did Dr. Megan Anna Neff discover autistic burnout and develop her workbook?
9:15–23:42
3
What are the core symptoms of autistic burnout (fatigue, sensory overload, skill loss)?
23:42–38:24
4
How can you differentiate autistic burnout from a major depressive episode?
38:24–38:40
Speakers
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