TPP 471: Chris Balme on Making Middle School an Adventure Worth Savoring

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Debbie Reber 0:29
I'm Debbie Rieber, and this is Full Till Parenting, a podcast for parents, caregivers, therapists, educators, anyone invested in embracing and supporting neurodivergent kids. And my guest today fits right in. I'm talking with education leader and author Chris Baum, and he's joining me to talk about his brand new book, Challenge Accepted: 50 Adventures to Make Middle School Awesome. In his new book, Chris Gibbs Middle Schoolers themselves. The tools to turn the ups and downs of adolescence into an adventure filled with meaning, growth, and connection. Chris has spent his whole career reimagining how we support adolescents. He's co-founded and led two innovative schools. He's written the best-selling book, Finding the Magic in Middle School.
Debbie Reber 1:10
Actually, he was on the show a few years back to talk about that book. And now he serves as co-principal of Hakuba International School and director of art. Which is an online advisory program for middle schoolers around the world. So in this episode, Chris will share why adventure and healthy risk taking is so powerful during the middle school years, how parents can support their kids' self-efficacy and independence, and what this can look like for neurodivergent learners. We're also going to talk about the parallel journeys parents and kids go through during this stage and how leaning into growth together can make Make middle school not just manageable, but truly awesome. So if you are raising a tween or an early teen or you're just creeping up into those middle school years, you're gonna get a lot out of this episode.
Debbie Reber 1:56
And don't forget to check out our YouTube channel where I upload videos of all of our conversations now on full tilt parenting. If you want to watch this one, just go to YouTube. The channel is Full Tilled Parenting. And while you're there, please subscribe. We're really trying to grow our community there. Thanks so much. And here is my conversation with Chris Baum. Hey Chris, welcome back to the show.
Chris Balme 2:19
Thanks, Deppy. Great to be back.
Debbie Reber 2:21
Yeah, I'm happy you reached out to me about your new book, which we're gonna get into. But I was looking back in the archives, and it's been about three and a half years since you were on the show. And that was to discuss your book, which I loved called Finding the Magic in Middle School, tapping into the power and potential of the middle school years. It came out in 2022. I thought it might be interesting to start by just talking about. What has changed in the landscape, like in this space that you are really immersed in the middle school years? What's different now?
Chris Balme 2:54
Middle schoolers are as awesome and as underestimated as ever, I would say.

What is Chris Balme’s new book “Challenge Accepted” about and why does it matter for middle schoolers?

Chris Balme 3:00
I don't think anything's changed in how awesome and capable they are. I do think the way of the world is making things a little harder for them. So much of what makes middle schoolers thrive is about choice and time with peers. And the way things are going, it feels like sometimes they're experiencing less choice and less truly open time with peers. Social media is not going to count, obviously, and it's going to work against that, as well as often the design of school. So that's why I wrote this book that I want them to experience choice and a sense of authorship over their lives and to have awesome adventures with friends, which is, I think, what middle school should be.
Debbie Reber 3:41
I just love even just to start this awesome and underestimated. It's just this relentlessly optimistic and positive view of a time of life that has a really bad rap, right?
Chris Balme 3:55
It's so unfortunate. I mean, this is, I guess, my life's work to change that story, that these two times in life I often compare of early childhood and early adolescence, are when our brains grow the fastest.

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