TPP 473: A Conversation with Naomi Fisher About EMDR
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Full-Tilt Parenting: Strategies, Insights, and Connection for Parents Raising Neurodivergent Children
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I'm Debbie Reber, and this is Full Tilt Parenting. It's a podcast for parents, caregivers, educators, therapists, anyone who wants to better understand, support, and show up for neurodivergent kids. I'm so excited about this conversation. We're going to be exploring EMDR, which stands for eye movement desensitization and reprocessing. It's a therapeutic approach that's been shown to be highly effective. In treating trauma, including or maybe especially for neurodivergent folks. So I'm bringing back onto the show Dr. Naomi Fisher. She was on the show a few months ago talking about self-directed learning and PDA. But she's a clinical psychologist who specializes in trauma, autism, and alternative education.
And she's an expert in EMDR. Naomi is also the author of several books, including When the Naughty Step Makes Things. Worse and the teenager's guide to burnout. And she regularly leads webinars for parents on these topics. But this conversation is just about EMDR. Namli is going to share her journey into that therapeutic modality and explain not just the mechanics of how it works, but also what is actually happening in a session. We talk about the importance of understanding trauma in children, especially those who are neurological. Neurodivergent, why neurodivergent individuals might have a unique trauma response that requires flexibility and therapy, how EMDR supports the brain's natural healing process, and even how parents can play an important role in helping children make sense of traumatic experiences.
And also a just little side note: the way that traumatic experiences are defined is super interesting and it might be different from what you think. So again, I found this to be such a truly fascinating conversation. These are the conversations I get so excited about sharing on this show. So have a listen, share it in your communities. You can watch this on the Full Tilled Parenting YouTube channel. Don't forget to subscribe while you're there. And let's really amplify this conversation far and wide. So here is my conversation with Dr. Naomi Fisher on EMDR. Hey Naomi, welcome back to the podcast. Thank you
so much for inviting me back. It's great to be here.
It wasn't that long ago that you were on the show. And listeners, I'll have a link in the show notes. It was a great conversation about self directed learning. We talked about PDA. And I was like, let's just touch upon EMDR. And then I I realized that's not fair to do in this conversation. It deserves its own conversation.
What is EMDR and why is it important for trauma treatment?
So that's what we'll get into today. And I guess as a way to start, I would love to know what drew you into using EMDR as a therapeutic approach and tie that in with the work that you do in the world.
So when I was a clinical psychology trainee, I was really interested in working with trauma, and I still am actually. So really working with people to whom terrible things have happened, maybe things that most of us just Don't ever encounter in our lives. and who then are living with the psychological consequences of that. And it was a particularly exciting area for me as a clinical psychologist because it's one of those areas where there isn't really medication that works if you've got post traumatic stress disorder. I mean, there's antidepressants and anti anxiety drugs, but There isn't really a drug that's really helped with that, but there are psychological inventions like EMDR and also trauma focused CBT, which the evidence shows can really make a huge difference.
And so I was really excited by that. So I and I actually I was lucky when I was a trainee as a clinical psychologist 20 years ago. I was given the opportunity to go and train in EMDR.
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4 chapters
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What is the main topic discussed in this episode?
0:00–2:58
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What is EMDR and why is it important for trauma treatment?
2:58–13:32
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How did Dr. Naomi Fisher first become interested in EMDR?
13:32–21:31
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What are the core mechanisms of EMDR (bilateral stimulation and memory activation)?
21:31–37:50
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