TPP 482: Dr. Scott Barry Kaufman on Moving Beyond a Victim Mindset
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Full-Tilt Parenting: Strategies, Insights, and Connection for Parents Raising Neurodivergent Children
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What is the victim mindset and why does it matter?
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I'm Debbie Reber, and this is Full Tilled Parenting. And also a little side note: this is the first episode of 2026, and 2026 marks 10 years since I started this show. The official anniversary date is in April, but it's gonna be a year of powerful conversations, and we're kicking it off strong with this one today. I have a really fascinating conversation for you with Dr. Scott Barry Kaufman. He's a psychologist, a professor, and And a best-selling author who's perhaps best known for redefining how we understand intelligence and human potential beyond traditional IQ-based models. This is Scott's second time on the show, but I had to bring him back to talk about his super interesting new book, Rise Above, Overcome a Victim Mindset, Empower Yourself and Realize Your Full Potential, which explores the concept of the victim mindset and how we can move beyond it.
Scott's currently teaching at Columbia University, where he directs the Center for Human Potential. And he's also the host of the Psychology Podcast, which is one of the most popular psychology shows in the world with more than 30 million downloads. I found Rise Above incredibly thought-provoking, and I loved exploring some of the ideas inside with Scott, who is deeply inquisitive and also loves to challenge norms, even norms within the Neurodivergent space. So this conversation has a bit of a different vibe than a typical full-tilled parenting episode in that it's about so much more than parenting our neurodivergent kids. It's really about exploring things like mindset and potential and temperament and sensitivity and all of those things.
We talk about the role of neurodivergence in shaping one's perspective, the traps of learned helplessness and rejection sensitivity. And the character strengths that can help us cultivate resilience and personal growth. And Scott also reflects on his own journey toward empowerment and what it means to truly rise above our limitations, both real and perceived. Again, super fascinating conversation. Also, a reminder: this episode is on YouTube. So if you want to watch us have this conversation, you can head over to the Full Till Parenting YouTube channel. But either way, I hope you enjoyed this very Very again, thought provoking, fascinating conversation. Hey Scott, welcome back to the podcast.
Tabby, I'm so honored to be back.
I'm honored that you're joining me again. I remember the first time we talked, I was in the middle of a move back to New York. I was in a temporary apartment. It was seven years ago.
No, stop it.
It really was. It's kind of mind blowing and life has continued and you've gone down so many fascinating roads through your work. So I'm very excited to explore your new work today. And I'm gonna just say this for listeners. When Scott was on the show before, we talked about his book, Ungifted, and it was just a great conversation. I'll have a link in the show notes. Definitely go check that out. You've also written a book. between now and then called Transcend, which was about the new science of self-actualization. And now your new book, I just finished, I listened to it. So it was really fun to hear you read the book. But it's called Rise Above, Overcome a Victim Mindset, Empower Yourself and Realize Your Full Potential.
I know you're like an endlessly curious person, but I really would love to know the journey that brought you to writing this book.
I think over the years I've reinterpreted my own personal story in many different ways, trying to understand what is it a really a story of? Is it a story of intelligence being misdiagnosed? Is it a story of creativity, imagination that was underappreciated?
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Chapters
8 chapters
1
What is the victim mindset and why does it matter?
0:00–5:42
2
How did Scott Barry Kaufman's own experiences shape the book *Rise Above*?
5:42–9:29
3
What role does neurodivergence play in developing a victim mindset?
9:29–13:12
4
How do learned helplessness and rejection sensitivity reinforce victimhood?
13:12–16:15
5
What character strengths can help children build resilience and empowerment?
16:15–21:10
6
How does an empowerment mindset differ from a growth mindset?
21:10–26:37
7
What practical steps can parents take to nurture an empowerment mindset in their kids?
26:37–30:56
8
How can identifying and using top character strengths transform challenges?
30:56–33:18
Speakers
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