TPP 518: Good Sleeping for Neurodivergent Kids, with Dr. Melisa Moore

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Melisa Moore 0:24
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Debbie Reber 0:29
I'm Debbie Rever, and this is Full Tilt Parenting. Today we are having another conversation about sleep. Specifically, those misunderstood sleep challenges that show up so often for kids like ours. My guest is Dr. Melissa Moore. She's a clinical psychologist who is board certified in behavioral sleep medicine, and she has spent years supporting children, teens, and young adults with sleep and mood concerns. concerns. She has worked extensively in pediatric sleep centers, including 17 years at Children's Hospital of Philadelphia. And she's the author of a brand new book called The Good Sleep Guide for Neurodivergent Kids, which is a compassionate, science-backed resource for families. Melissa and I will explore why sleep issues are so common in neurodivergent kids, the role of underlying conditions like obstructive sleep apnea, which is actually more common than you might think, how to recognize when something more than quote unquote typical sleep struggles might be happening, and what kinds of support can actually make a difference.
Debbie Reber 1:31
This is actually a great companion episode to the conversation I had with Alex Mortlock on circadian rhythm syndromes and other complex sleep challenges in kids that came out a few months ago. And it's definitely a must-listen if your child experiences any types of sleep disruptions or challenges. So here is Dr. Melissa Moore. Hey Melissa, welcome to the podcast. Thank you so much for having me. I love talking about sleep for some reason. It's become something I'm really interested in because it's something we've struggled with in our family. And a lot of parents that I work with struggle with sleep challenges with their kids. And it's not always been easy to find information. So I was really excited about your
Debbie Reber 2:15
brand new book, which we're gonna talk about today. But will you give us a little bit of your story and how you came to be focused on this kind of intersection of sleep and neurodivergence in kids?
Melisa Moore 2:28
Sure. So I got interested in sleep in graduate school actually.

What are the common sleep challenges faced by neurodivergent children?

Melisa Moore 2:33
I really enjoyed working with teenagers and I also was very idealistic and really wanted to make a big impact. And so I started looking at things that really impact teenagers' lives. And at the same time, I had a professor who Was talking about dealing with people that have a hard time opening up. And he said that he always started with how's your sleep because it's a good way to get things going and you know it's not so intimidating to talk about your sleep. So I started down that path and once I realized how important sleep is and when you can help someone with their sleep. It's incredibly gratifying. It makes such a huge difference in their lives. So I was already doing this work for about 10 years.
Melisa Moore 3:25
I was at the Children's Hospital of Philadelphia Sleep Center before I had my son, who is neurodiverse and has sleep problems. So as a psychologist, you know, as a professional, I see and have seen the whole time many, many, many neurodiverse kids and neurodiverse families. So I already had that experience and then I got the lived experience as well. So I come at it from two angles really.
Debbie Reber 3:58
I love that. I love hearing from people who are in this space. You know, and sometimes it happens with educators, right? They're educators and they're maybe working with neurodivergent kids and then they have their own and it kind of shifts their lens. So how did your personal lens shift? You said you were already working with neurodivergent kids and then you had your own and navigating the same stuff. Like, how did it change you?
Melisa Moore 4:24
Yeah. My view still comes from the same place. I really am grounded in the science. So I make the same recommendations, but I think I have a whole new understanding of how difficult these small things can be that we ask families to do.

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