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What is the premise of the Climbing the Walls series and why focus on women with ADHD?

Debbie Reber 0:00
Hey there, it's Debbie. As you know, every now and then, I like to share other podcasts that I think you would like. So today I'm sharing a recent conversation from a new podcast called Climbing the Walls. This show is a six-part series that investigates why women with ADHD have gone undiagnosed for so long and how that changed dramatically during the pandemic when the diagnosis of ADHD in women skyrocketed. The show asks, why women? Why now? And how has underdiagnosis impacted women's mental health? I had a chance to check out the first two episodes of this show. I'm about to share the first one with you in a sec, and I really liked it. The show has a blend of reporting, interviews, and personal experience that makes it a great listen.
Debbie Reber 0:45
And as a woman who discovered my own ADHD in recent years, I really appreciated the conversations and insights. I think you will too. Here it is.
Danielle Elliott 0:55
I've never been all that good at listening to instructions. When flight attendants ask passengers to put their phones on airplane mode, I don't. I usually scroll Instagram until we lose service. That's what I was doing one morning in February 2024. I was scrolling Instagram when the little red icon appeared in the top left corner of the app. A new message. I opened it. It was a link to a video. My thumb was hovering over it as the wheels lifted off the runway. I saw the top half of the news anchor's head and the logo for Fox News. The screen froze like that. At the time, I was working on a film about affirmative action, so I assumed that the link had something to do with that. We were in the air for about six hours, and as we landed, I opened Instagram again.
Danielle Elliott 1:42
I saw four more messages. Everyone was sending me the same link. As it loaded, I realized it had nothing to do with affirmative action.
Dana Perino 1:52
Adult women are being diagnosed with ADHD at a record pace. In just two years, diagnosis rate has nearly doubled. Ah, yes.
Danielle Elliott 2:03
ADHD. Attention Deficit Hyperactivity Disorder.
Dana Perino 2:07
Phones could be a root cause, but ironically, it's also what's raising awareness about it. It
Danielle Elliott 2:11
was all over the news that
Dana Perino 2:13
week. Joining us now is Brooke Schnittman. She's an ADHD and executive function coach. It's great to have you here. So tell us why. Why women? Why now? Why are these diagnoses going up? Diagnosis
Unknown 2:26
in ADHD is going up. People are understanding more about themselves since the pandemic. So when we had so much downtime to really understand ourselves, that's when mental health was on the rise. It seemed like Brooke had more to say, but the anchor jumped in.
Dana Perino 2:42
So You know, all of us are distracted because of our phones, right? I can be reading the Wall Street Journal editorial page at night. I'm like, wait, let me check what my sister just sent me on Instagram. But where's the line between someone who feels distracted because of their phone and someone who actually has ADHD and gets a diagnosis like that? I
Danielle Elliott 3:00
knew exactly why my friends were sending me this clip. Why are so many women being diagnosed with ADHD? Do they really have it?

How did the pandemic trigger a surge in ADHD diagnoses for adult women?

Danielle Elliott 3:10
I started asking these questions sometime in the summer of 2022, a few months after I joined the ranks of the recently diagnosed. Listening to a news anchor question the rise in diagnosis, I realized I really do want to know why women, why now? For the last year or so, I've tried to answer these questions. I've talked to scientists, doctors, and I've talked to many, many women who have ADHD. Some who were recently diagnosed, others who have known for decades. This is a story about science, social expectations, stress, and the way we live. It's about who we trust. Most importantly, it's a story about women.
Danielle Elliott 4:06
This is Climbing the Walls. I'm Danielle Elliott.
Danielle Elliott 4:16
I had a fairly unique pandemic experience. I started dating someone in the first week. I was 35 and this was honestly my first relationship. Unless, you know, you actually want to count the revolving door of four-month situations I've been in for the last 10 years. Anyway, everything was new and it was distracting me from everything else happening in the world. We moved in together.

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