COVID Updates: A Podcast with Peter Chin-Hong and Lona Mody

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What is the current state of COVID‑19 and how has the virus changed since 2020?

Eric Widera 0:00
Welcome to the Jerry Powell podcast. This is Eric Wadera.
Alex Smith 0:04
This is Alex Smith. And Alex, who do we have with us today? We are delighted to welcome back Lona Modi, who is a geriatrician, translational infectious disease researcher, and professor at the University of Michigan and the Ann Arbor VA. Lona, welcome back to Jerry Powell.
Lona Mody 0:22
It's great to be here. Thank you.
Alex Smith 0:24
And we're delighted to welcome Peter Chin Hong, who is an infectious disease physician and medical educator, professor at UCSF, and associate dean for regional campuses. Peter, welcome to the Jerry Pal podcast.
Peter Chin-Hong 0:37
A pleasure to be on, Alex and Eric.
Eric Widera 0:39
Alex, we haven't had a COVID podcast in a long time. Is that right? It's
Alex Smith 0:44
been
Eric Widera 0:44
a minute.
Alex Smith 0:44
It's been a minute.
Eric Widera 0:46
So today we're going to be talking about COVID updates. And I'm super excited. We've got a lot to cover from thinking about COVID boosters, where we are with that, potential treatments. But before we do, we always start off with a song request. Who has a song request? Is it you, Peter?
Peter Chin-Hong 1:03
I do have a song request. I want to hear Kelly Clarkson and I want to hear her sing. Well, not Kelly herself, but catch my breath. And the reason why I'm choosing it is because it's respiratory virus season and we don't want our patients to catch their breath.
Eric Widera 1:20
I love this because Peter gave such a great list of potential songs.
Peter Chin-Hong 1:25
I
Eric Widera 1:27
was voting for cough syrup.
Alex Smith 1:30
That was a great one. That one would have been quite the challenge. This
Eric Widera 1:34
one's a
Alex Smith 1:34
little bit more straightforward. I
Eric Widera 1:36
think cough syrup though, I'm not sure. I think it may have been the way the kids take cough syrup. Not really. I
Alex Smith 1:41
think that was the meaning too. I caught that as well. Waiting for the cough syrup to wear off. Yeah. A little bit different from the way that we meet.
Eric Widera 1:51
So wise choice. Wise choice on this. Wise choice. Here's a little bit.
Unknown 1:56
I don't want to be left behind. Distance was a friend of mine. Catching breath in a web of lies. I've spent most of my life riding waves playing acrobat. Shadowboxing the other half Learning how to react I've spent most of my time Catching my breath, letting it go Turning my cheek for the sake of the show Now that you know this is my life I won't be told what's supposed to be right Catch my breath No one can hold me back I ain't got time for that Catch my breath Won't let them get me down It's all so simple now
Eric Widera 3:00
That was great. Bravo.
Lona Mody 3:04
Awesome. That was fantastic.
Eric Widera 3:06
I did hear her once in Central Park when I lived in New York. She was playing, and I did not go in to pay for it. I just listened outside. That was my only Kelly Clarkson experience.
Alex Smith 3:15
She's an amazing singer. I remember that early American Idol. So good. Yeah, I had to take that down about two octaves to sing it. Thank you, Peter.
Eric Widera 3:28
Lona, I am not sure you remember this, but over four years ago, March, mid-March of 2020, we did a podcast on a novel respiratory virus that was coming out of Wuhan. And we asked questions like, what should we be calling this? COVID? SARS-CoV-2? And man, things have changed since that first time that we had you on to talk about COVID over the last four years, huh?
Lona Mody 3:57
Yes, it has been four years, over four years, and it seems like so much has happened. We all have grown so much. The virus has changed so much. The world has changed so much. So, yeah, it's a good reflection. We know so much now than before.
Eric Widera 4:13
Yeah.

Why do many people perceive a disconnect between COVID severity and personal risk in 2024?

Eric Widera 4:14
And I mean, I'm just reflecting because like, it feels like back in early 2020, it was almost like we were dealing with another virus. Like Alex and I did some virtual palliative care in New York when the first kind of wave hit New York and holy smokes, like the people that we were seeing were so sick. And then when it came to San Francisco, again, that, that first year, diffuse lung injuries that we're seeing, everything else. It was devastating. And four years later, it almost feels like we're dealing with a different virus. And I know that's probably a stupid statement of me. I probably get a lot of feedback on that statement, but I'd love to hear kind of how you think, both of you, how you think, like, what, where are we with COVID right now?

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