Do Nurses Die Differently: A Podcast with Julie Bynum
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GeriPal - A Geriatrics and Palliative Medicine Podcast
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Welcome to the Jerry Pal podcast. This is Eric Quadero. This is Alex Smith. And Alex, we have two people on our Skype call with us.
have two people on our Skype call. Our guest today is Julie Bynum, who is Professor of Medicine at the University of Michigan in the um in Geriatrics and Palliative Care Division and the Institute for Healthcare Policy and Innovation. Welcome oh we should also say she is a deputy editor at the Journal of the American Geriatrics Society. Welcome to the JerryPel podcast, Julie.
Thank you. Delighted to be here.
And we're gonna be talking about your article that was published in Jags, Serious Illness and End of Life Treatments for Nurses Compared with the General Population. Do nurses die differently?
And speaking of nurses, we have a nurse on the line. Oh, who's
on
the
live?
We also have Lauren Hunt, who's been a previous guest, host uh many things on this podcast before. She's a nurse practitioner, she's worked in hospice, she is assistant professor in the School of Nursing here at UCSF in the Department of Physiologic Nursing and is an Atlantic Fellow for Equity and Brain Health in the Global Brain Health Institute. Welcome to the Jerry Powell podcast. Good to have you back.
Glad to be back.
And before we jump into this article, do nurses die differently? Do you have a song request for Alex, Julie?
Yeah, you know, what's the name of that song?
Well played. Well played. This will be our first, I think, Sesame Street request. This is a Sesame Street song. This is a Sesame Street song. Yes it is. You can see
where my brain is.
I was playing like Sesame Street videos last night at home and my family was just snickering in the background. Is this a common occurrence, Alex,
or is it just for this podcast? No, just for
this podcast. All right, let's
hear.
All
right.
Lottie dadi dum, Lie Dadi Dum What's the name of that song? Lati Dadi Dum, Lie Dadi Dum, what's the name of that song? It goes Lie Dadi Dum, Lie Daddy Dum something something birds Lie Dadi Dum Lie Dadi dum I wish I remembered the words. Mm.
Okay, Julie, why did you pick that song?
Oh, I just loved that little line I got to say where I when you asked me what song it was. I I think mostly it was to make an excuse ahead of our conversation in case I have trouble with my word finding, which I often do.
Um okay.
What is the central research question about nurses’ end‑of‑life care?
So let's jump into this topic um of healthcare providers. Like, do they die any differently? Um, how did you get interested in this, first of all, like as a topic?
Well, I you know, I'm always been deeply interested in the role of physicians, nurses, clinicians in what we do for older adults. You know, my interest is really about how do we get what older adults need and want to them and I think The clinical professionals have a lot of influence there. Um but the real way this paper came together is through a wonderful collaboration with Fran Grodstein at the nurses' health study. So this was actually the offshoot of several other grants that we had. Um So you know basically the nurses health study, if people know about it, they in recruited how forty years ago a very large cohort of nurses, over a hundred thousand followed them into older age. And uh They'd been studied over and over again for disease.
But I sort of turned it on its head and said, Fran, why why can't we Study them as nurses and what they do in the healthcare system. Um, can we actually flip this omelet and look at the other side for this cohort?
That's brilliant because you re as you say, everybody else is trying to say, Oh no, this does generalize. And you said, actually, I wanna yeah, I wanna interested in other them be specifically because they are nurses. It's fascinating.
I like to mention I'm I'm a part of the nurses' health study. The I guess it's like number number three, I think.
Really?
Yeah.
Wow. So we have we have a participant here.
Yes. So the challenge for me then is for you for me to live long enough for you to be Medicare eligible so I can link your data to Medicare.
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