Intentionally Interprofessional Care: DorAnne Donesky, Michelle Milic, Naomi Saks, & Cara Wallace

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What is the purpose of the episode and who are the sponsors?

Eric Widera 0:00

This episode of the Jerry Bal Podcast is sponsored by UCSF's Division of Palliative Medicine, an amazing group doing world class palliative care.

Alex Smith 0:08

UCSF's Division of Palliative Medicine are looking to build on their research and clinical programs and are interviewing candidates for the Associate Chief of Research Position and for full time physician faculty to join them in the inpatient and outpatient settings.

Eric Widera 0:25

Learn more about job opportunities, please go to palliative medicine.ucsf.edu forward slash job hyphen-job dash openings. Or if you're like me and you have difficulty remembering what a backslash or forward slash is, just go to the show notes of this episode and click on the link and on to the show. This episode of the JerryPow Podcast is CME eligible.

Alex Smith 0:53

To claim credit, please go to the CME tab on jerrypal.org.

Eric Widera 0:58

Welcome to the Jerry Powell podcast. This is Eric Wadera.

Alex Smith 1:01

This is Alex Smith. And Alex, who do we have with us today? We have a tremendous interprofessional team here with us today. We're welcoming back to Jerry Powell, Naomi Sachs, who's a palliative care chaplain and assistant professor in the division of palliative medicine at UCSF. Naomi, welcome back to JerryPal.

Naomi Saks 1:18

Thank you. Good to be here.

Alex Smith 1:20

We're delighted to welcome Michelle Milich, who is a pulmonary and critical care and palliative care doc and associate professor of clinical medicine at Georgetown. Michelle, welcome to JerryPal.

Michelle Milic 1:31

Thanks for having us today.

Alex Smith 1:32

And we're delighted to welcome Doran Donetsky, who is a palliative care nurse practitioner at Queen of the Valley Medical Center in Napa, and Professor Emeritus at the UCSF School of Nursing. Doran, welcome to Jerry Powell.

DorAnne Donesky 1:46

Good to see you. Thanks.

Alex Smith 1:48

And Kara Wallace, who is a hospice social worker and endowed chair and professor in the St. Louis University School of Nursing. Kara, welcome to Jerry Pal.

Cara Wallace 1:58

Glad to be here. Thanks.

Eric Widera 1:59

So I'm gonna correct you, Alex. This is not uh an interprofessional team that we're talking about. This is an intentionally interprofessional team because that's our topic for today. And we're gonna describe what that is, but before we do, uh Kara, do you have the song request for Alex?

Cara Wallace 2:17

I do. Our song request is Nothing's Gonna Stop Us Now by Starship. And this song really feels like an invitation to me, which is something that we're trying to do with this conversation, with this textbook and this project that we've done together. Uh, we've built a lot of momentum around intentionally in a professional palliative care and talking with authors and talking about people interested in the textbook. Uh and in those conversations, it's starting to feel like nothing's gonna stop us now.

Alex Smith 2:47

Love it. This song brings me back to my youth. All right, here's a little bit.

2:54

Looking in your eyes, I see a paradise. This world that I found is too good to be true. Standing here beside you, want so much to give you this love in my heart that I'm feeling for you. Let's say we're crazy, I don't care about that. Put your hand in my hand, baby, don't ever look back. Let the world around us. Just fall apart. Baby weekend!

3:34

Fill this dream together, standing strong forever. Nothing's gonna stop us now. And if this world runs out of lovers, we'll still have each other. Nothing's gonna stop us, nothing's gonna stop us now.

Eric Widera 3:56

Man, flashbacks to eighth grade dances.

Alex Smith 4:01

Move your hands up, please.

Eric Widera 4:08

Don't you need a duet for that, Alex? Yeah,

Unknown 4:11

I do. That's true. We'll see. Maybe uh maybe I'll overdub something on the uh the audio version. We'll see.

Eric Widera 4:18

Yeah, maybe a little interprofessional, intentionally interprofessional duet going on there. Oh yeah. Can I just

DorAnne Donesky 4:27

mention something? Yeah, I got it. As as you were singing it, I was thinking about another really important person who isn't here today, which is Barbara Head, who was our senior editorial advisor for this book and unfortunately passed away on hospice right before the book was published, but not before she had written the introduction. And as you were singing that, it just brought her to my heart and I wanted to acknowledge her.

Eric Widera 4:55

So so I gotta cause most of our listeners may have not seen this book, may have just figured out that we're gonna be talking about a book.

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1 What is the purpose of the episode and who are the sponsors? 0:00–5:24 2 How do the hosts introduce the interprofessional team and their roles? 5:24–10:44 3 What inspired the creation of the "Intentionally Interprofessional Palliative Care" book? 10:44–23:58 4 Why is it important to build an interprofessional team before writing the book? 23:58–47:55

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Eric Widera 6 min Alex Smith 5 min

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World Health Organization 1 Alex Smith 1 UCSF 2 Starship 1 Jerry Powell podcast 1 Georgetown 1 Eric Wadera 1 Naomi Sachs 2 National Consensus Project 1 National Palliative Care Registry 1 Queen of the Valley Medical Center 1 Michelle Milich 2

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In fellowship, one of the leaders at MGH used to quote Balfour Mount as saying, "You say you've worked on teams? Show me your scars." Scars, really? Yes. I've been there. You probably have too. On the one hand, I don't think interprofessional teamwork needs to be scarring. On the other hand, though it goes against my middle-child "can't we all get along" nature, disagreement is a key aspect of high functioning teams. The key is to foster an environment of curiosity and humility that welcomes and even encourages a diversity of perspectives, including direct disagreement. Today we talk with DorAnne Donesky, Michelle Milic, Naomi Saks, & Cara Wallace about the notion that we should revolutionize our education programs, training programs, teams, incentive structures, and practice to be intentionally interprofessional in all phases. The many arguments, theories, & approaches across settings and conditions are explored in detail in the book they edited, "Intentionally Interprofessional Palliative Care" (discount code AMPROMD9). Of note: these lessons apply to geriatrics, primary care, hospital medicine, critical care, cancer care, etc, etc. And they begin on today's podcast with one clinical ask: everyone should be a generalist and a specialist. In other words, in addition to being a specialist (e.g. social worker, chaplain), everyone should be able to ask a question or two about spiritual concerns, social concerns, or physical concerns. Many more approaches to being interprofessional on today's podcast. But how about you! What will you commit to in order to be more intentionally interprofessional? If we build this dream together, standing strong forever, nothing's gonna stop us now… -@AlexSmithMD Interprofessional organizations that are not specific to palliative care are doing excellent work National Center for Interprofessional Practice and Education: https://nexusipe.org/ National Collaborative for Improving the Clinical Learning Environment https://ncicle.org/ Interprofessional Education Collaborative (home of the IPEC Competencies) https://www.ipecollaborative.org/ American Interprofessional Health Collaborative (sponsor of the biennial meeting "Collaborating Across Borders") https://aihc-us.org/index.php/ Health Professions Accreditors Collaborative https://healthprofessionsaccreditors.org/ This episode of the GeriPal Podcast is sponsored by UCSF's Division of Palliative Medicine, an amazing group doing world-class palliative care. They are looking to build on both their research and clinical programs and are interviewing candidates for the Associate Chief of Research and for full-time physician faculty to join them in the inpatient and outpatient setting. To learn more about job opportunities, please click here: https://palliativemedicine.ucsf.edu/job-openings ** NOTE: To claim CME credit for this episode, click here **

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