Plenary Abstracts at AAHPM/HPNA: Yael Schenker, Na Ouyang, Marie Bakitas

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Eric Widera 0:00
Welcome to the Jerry Pal podcast. This is Eric Guadera.
Alex Smith 0:03
This is Alex
Eric Widera 0:04
Smith. And Alex, this is a live podcast at the HPNA, HPM annual meeting. And who do we have with us?
Alex Smith 0:11
We have a wonderful panel of guests. And today they're going to introduce themselves, starting with Marie.
Marie Bakitas 0:18
Hey, everyone. I'm Marie Bakaitis, and I'm a professor at the University of Alabama at Birmingham and also the associate director of the Center for Palliative and Supportive Care.
Yael Schenker 0:28
Hi everyone, I'm Yale Shanker. I'm a professor of medicine at the University of Pittsburgh and also director of the Palliative Research Center.
Na Ouyang 0:36
Hi everyone, I'm Na Ouyang. I'm a PhD candidate at Yale School of Nursing.
Eric Widera 0:42
Great. So we got a lot to talk about. We're going to be talking about three different articles that are going to be presented Saturday. Saturday, I believe, at the annual meeting. But before we get into the topics, I think we have a song request. You have a song request?
Na Ouyang 1:01
Yes. I requested this song. Name is The Sound of Silence.
Eric Widera 1:06
Why did you pick The Sound of Silence?
Na Ouyang 1:08
I like this song very much, first of all. And also I think it implies something nowadays.
Eric Widera 1:15
Anything else from our colleagues? How about we just jump into the song? Maybe they'll sing along.
Marie Bakitas 1:21
Let's hear the song. Yeah, let's hear the song.
Unknown 1:27
Hello darkness my old friend I've
Yael Schenker 1:31
come to
Unknown 1:31
talk with you again Because a vision softly creeping Left its seeds while I was sleeping And the vision that was planted in my brain Still remains Within the sound of silence In restless dreams I walked alone. Narrow streets of cobblestone. Near the halo of a street lamp. I turned my collar to the cold and damp. Where my eyes were stabbed by the flash of a neon light. That split the night. And touched the sound of silence.
Eric Widera 2:26
excellent thank you alex
Alex Smith 2:28
Yeah, I think that song is a protest song that fits our time about people not listening to each other and how in times of turmoil, we need to listen to each other and not the neon gods we've made. Hmm, who could that refer to? We'll do those verses at the end.
Eric Widera 2:46
Maybe I may sing along then. We'll see. Have to see. Well, let's jump into it. We've got a lot to talk about. Three different articles. Maria, I'm going to start off with you. You did a rural... tele palliative care consultation study. Before you tell me actually what you did, why did you decide to do this study with your group?
Marie Bakitas 3:08
So living in Alabama, which is our palliative care desert in the South, there were no palliative care services in any of the small rural hospitals. And so we decided that we needed to bring palliative care there. It wasn't realistic to bring it by people. And so the video consult was what became the mode. We went to a hospital in Mississippi, one in Alabama, and one in South Carolina.
Eric Widera 3:38
And what did you actually do?
Marie Bakitas 3:41
So probably the most important thing is we developed the consultation as a culturally-based consultation process. And so we worked closely with a community advisory group who, through focus groups, told us how it was that black and white individuals with serious illness had wanted to be treated. So their caregivers did focus groups. And then we incorporated that information into the consultation process, NCP guideline standard consultation. And so really, this whole thing was very focused on dealing not only with the issues of rural, but also the diverse cultures that we have.
Eric Widera 4:27
Yeah. I got to ask about the community advisor. Actually, I think I saw a poster on this. Was it Sarah?
Marie Bakitas 4:36
Sheena. Sheena.

Why did the team choose to perform a tele‑video palliative‑care trial in rural hospitals?

Marie Bakitas 4:37
Dr. Sheena Gassway, yes.
Eric Widera 4:40
She had a wonderful poster. And I guess one question is, when you do these community advisory boards... Like, what communities are you including? I'm just trying to think of, like, if there was a study of Eric Widera, and Eric Widera was not included in the community advisory board, but you had to put together a community advisory board about Eric Widera, like, what communities would have been included for that study? Like, would you include the doctors that I work with, healthcare providers, where I live in Marin? I don't want those people to be making decisions for me.

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