RCT of Palliative Care for Heart Failure and Lung Disease: David Bekelman and Lyndsay DeGroot
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GeriPal - A Geriatrics and Palliative Medicine Podcast
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What is the purpose of this podcast and who are the guests?
Hey, listeners, this Jerry Powell episode is eligible for CME. Eric, how do our listeners claim credit for CME?
Go to the jerrypowell.org website, look at the top menu, click the CME menu item, and it'll link to the post that will describe exactly what you should be doing to claim CME credit and to register. And on to the show. Welcome to the Jerry Pell Podcast. This is Eric Guadera.
This is Alex
Smith. And Alex, who do we have with us today?
We are delighted to welcome David Beckelman, who's a palliative care physician and researcher at the University of Colorado School of Medicine Anschutz Medical Campus. David, we've been wanting to have you on for a long time. You finally have a positive study and we're ready to talk with you. That's not the reason, by the way, that we select people to be on the podcast.
We like negative studies
too. We do. We learn as much from what doesn't work as what does. Welcome to Jerry Pal, David.
Thank you. Thank you for having me.
And we're delighted to welcome Lindsay DeGroote, who's a nurse researcher and T32 postdoc at the University of Colorado and Schutz Medical Campus. Welcome to Jerry Pal, Lindsay.
Thank you so much. It's an honor to be here.
And we're also delighted to welcome Dia Martina, who's a palliative care doc and physician researcher in Indonesia, who wants to start a podcast in Indonesia about palliative care. And she's primarily observing today and also attending the ASCO GI conference here in San Francisco. Welcome to Jerry Paldia.
Thank you so much.
So I am super excited about this one. We got a lot to talk about. In particular, a lot of our focus is going to be talking about palliative care and COPD, heart failure, interstitial lung disease, spurred on by a jam of paper that was just published this week on nurse and social work, palliative care, telecare team, and quality of life in patients with COPD, heart failure, and interstitial lung disease. Big randomized control study that came out, important implications. But before we jump into that, I think somebody has a song request. Is it you, Lindsay?
I do have a song request for you, Alex.
And what is that song?
The song is The Best Is Yet To Come by Ben Rector.
And why'd you choose that song?
I think a couple of reasons. First of all, I love Ben Rector, so he's my go-to. But I think first, it's really great for the new year, thinking about all the new things that are to come in 2024, but also thinking about folks who are adapting to living with serious illness that you never maybe thought you were going to have to deal with it, that hopefully as they enter new seasons, as they're living with this, that the best is yet to come for them in terms of their care and their quality of life. And finally, too, as a new researcher and postdoctoral fellow, I'm hoping that the best is yet to come for palliative care research and work. And there's so much to look forward to in helping people live their best lives.
So I'm really excited to hear this
song. I love that. And I love also anytime we've invited University of Colorado folks, in particular Dan Malach, he chooses a very challenging song.
for
Alex to sing. And it seems like it's a theme. Alex, is this going to be challenging on one hand on a piano?
Yeah, I still have a broken hand. Hopefully next week I'll be released and have two hands that'll take a while to recover. So this is the challenging piano part. So my wife is playing it, playing the piano, Cindy Hsu, who's played piano before on this podcast. For those of you who are listening, for those of you who are watching live, you get to see me sort of fumble through this on the keyboard. Here's a little bit of The Best Is Yet To Come. Great song.
It's been the kind of year I'd be fine if I forgot
But I'll never forget
it
As long as I live in that same life
The
wildest menagerie
of unfortunate crazy things And now it's all over Leave in the past all the things that are ending Cause tomorrow will bring us a new morning sun My friends, I believe that the best is yet to come
Amazing. More of that song at the end.
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Chapters
7 chapters
1
What is the purpose of this podcast and who are the guests?
0:00–9:11
2
Why did the researchers choose heart failure, COPD, and ILD for the ADAPT trial?
9:11–16:44
3
How did the CASA trial inform the design of the new nurse‑social worker intervention?
16:44–23:40
4
What training did the nurses and social workers receive for the telephone intervention?
23:40–32:55
5
What were the primary quality‑of‑life results of the ADAPT randomized controlled trial?
32:55–41:40
6
Which secondary outcomes (depression, anxiety, disease‑specific health status) improved and why?
41:40–48:47
7
How can this intervention be scaled, adapted, and implemented in other health‑care settings?
48:47–51:48
Speakers
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