Storytelling in Medicine: A Podcast with Liz Salmi, Anne Kelly, and Preeti Malani
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GeriPal - A Geriatrics and Palliative Medicine Podcast
50 min
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What is the purpose of this episode and who are the featured guests?
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And on with the show. Welcome to the Jerry Pal podcast. This is Eric Guidera.
This is Alex
Smith. And Alex, we got a full house today. We got somebody in between us
too. Yeah, we have three people in studio. Our listeners will be familiar with Ann Kelly, who's a social worker at the San Francisco VA on the palliative care service, who wrote a JAMA piece of my mind titled The Last Visit. Hi,
guys. Thank you. Happy to be elbowing my way in between you
today. And also the occasional intro speaker for the Jerry Powell podcast. You'll recognize her voice from that.
We also have Liz Salmi, who is a communications and patient initiatives director at OpenNotes at Beth Israel Deaconess Medical Center in Boston. and tweets at TheLizArmy, where her description is, be one, do one, teach one. We'll hear more about that. She's the author of a knee-jim perspective titled, Deciding on My Dimples. Welcome, Liz, to the Jerry Pal podcast.
Yay, thanks for having me.
And we're delighted to welcome Preeti Malani, who is professor of medicine in the Division of Infectious Disease at the University of Michigan, my alma mater. An ID doc and geriatrician, deputy editor and director of editorial equity at JAMA and editor of the Peace of My Mind section at JAMA. Welcome to the GeriPal podcast, Preeti.
Thank you so much for having me.
So this is going to be part two of a series we have on writing. The first one we did with Louise Aronson and Roseanne Leipzig on writing for the lay public. Today we're going to be talking about narrative writing and specifically for healthcare professionals. So in like academic journals and elsewhere. But before we go into that topic, I think Liz, you got a song request for Alex.
That's right. It's called the beginning of the end and it's by Weezer.
Why'd you pick this song?
So I used to be the drummer in a punk rock band.
Get out of here.
No, it's true. And the lyrics to the song, which are by Rivers Como, is the lyricist songwriter for Weezer. I believe what the story is telling is talking about as the front man for a band, he's thinking about what you're thinking right as you're about to go onto a stage and perform in front of this huge audience as these rock stars. But as in my piece in the New England Journal is about being a patient right before awake brain surgery. And when I was preparing for surgery, that feeling, the nervousness about going live on stage in front of the surgical audience, the lyrics for that became kind of my theme song. And I just had two awake surgeries in the last year and a half. And so it's about going live on stage in the medical audience and everything from the whiteboard in the surgery room saying, here's the lineup, who's up next for surgery and seeing my name on that list of I'm up next, I'm on stage next really spoke to me.
And that's how I interpret the lyrics.
That's great. Thank you for that story. And for this suggestion, here we go without the whole punk rock band and drummer behind me, a little bit of this song.
Knocking on my door, they tell me it's time to go on. Last check in the mirror to see if anything's wrong. The writing's up on the wall. A warning shot to them all. My head is spinning, it's the beginning of the end People freak out when I walk out, they're so scared My head is spinning, it's the beginning of the end People freak out when I walk out, they're so scared
Liz, what was your punk rock band's name?
It was called Lucky Strike.
Lucky Strike. Lovely song. I think it's perfect for the topic at hand. And Liz, I'm going to start with you. So you've been dealing with astrocytoma, right?
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Chapters
8 chapters
1
What is the purpose of this episode and who are the featured guests?
0:02–6:41
2
Why did Liz Salmi write a NEJM Perspective about her awake brain surgery?
6:41–13:01
3
How does Anne Kelly’s JAMA “The Last Visit” illustrate caregiving at the end of life?
13:01–19:14
4
What does Preeti Malani look for when selecting a Piece of My Mind essay?
19:14–24:55
5
How do authors balance personal voice with editorial feedback in narrative essays?
24:55–31:56
6
Why is timeliness and relevance important for narrative medicine publications?
31:56–37:52
7
What practical actions can clinicians take from these storytelling pieces?
37:52–44:14
8
How do the hosts wrap up the discussion and encourage listener participation?
44:14–50:08
Speakers
3 identifiedMore from GeriPal - A Geriatrics and Palliative Medicine Podcast
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