The Future of Geriatrics: A Podcast with Jerry Gurwitz, Ryan Chippendale, and Mike Harper
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GeriPal - A Geriatrics and Palliative Medicine Podcast
51 min
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8 chapters
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What is the focus of today’s episode and who are the guests?
Welcome to the Jerry Powell podcast. This is Eric Guadera.
This is Alex Smith.
And Alex, who do we have with us today?
Today, we're delighted to welcome Jerry Gerwitz, who is a geriatrician and professor of medicine at the UMass Chan Medical School. Jerry, welcome to Jerry Powell.
Great to be here.
We're also delighted to welcome Mike Harper, who's a geriatrician, a professor in the UCSF Division of Geriatrics, past president of American Geriatric Society, or AGS, and is also current board chair for AGS, and like me, a rabid Warriors fan. Mike, welcome to GeriPal.
Hi.
Great to be here. Looking forward to the game tonight, even though
it's a preseason
one. We'll take any worries we can get. And finally, we're delighted to welcome Ryan Chippendale, who's a geriatrician, associate professor at Boston University, and also is geriatric medicine fellowship director there. Welcome to GeriPal, Ryan.
Thanks so much for having me. Go
Celts.
This is going to be a problem. And Geri, I'm guessing you're a Celtics fan?
I sure am.
I see a green jacket on. So we got a lot to talk about today. This podcast came up, Jerry wrote a fascinating article in JAMA on the paradoxical decline of geriatric medicine as a profession, which I think stimulated a lot of conversations. And we thought, hey, we should be part of that conversation and talk about kind of what does the future of geriatrics look like? But before we go into that topic, Jerry, I think you have a song request.
And my song request is Coldplay by Coldplay Fix You. Want to know why I chose
it? I would love to know why you chose it. Outside of I'm pretty sure Alex is happy to sing a Coldplay song.
I'm really looking forward to this. This song makes me tear up and sometimes cry. It makes me feel, the beginning makes me feel a bit sad and hopeless. The lyrics stuck in reverse. Could it be worse? But at the end, it makes me feel hopeful. I don't know if Alex will sing this, but if you never try, you'll never know what you're worth. And I feel like that makes me feel like a geriatrician. And I just want to say one thing. I have never for a moment regretted going into geriatrics, not for one minute, not for one second. So I want to hear that song. I'm ready.
Thank you, Jerry. Here's a little bit first verse in the chorus for those watching live on YouTube. For those who are listening, you get my prerecorded full version that has Jerry's requested lyrics.
When you try your best but you don't succeed When you get what you want but not what you need When you feel so tired but you can't sleep Stuck in reverse Lights will guide you home And ignite your bones And I will try to fix you Tears stream down your face When you lose something you cannot replace Tears stream down your face and I Lights will guide you home And ignite your bones. And
I will try to fix you.
You know what? That's worth a $250 donation to Jerry, pal.
I told Jerry to say that. I wonder if this is foreshadowing for the podcast. I'm going to roll with that foreshadowing, and I'm going to start off with Jerry. I was going to start off by asking Jerry about why he wrote the JAMA article. It was JAMA, right? Not JAMA IM? It was JAMA. But Jerry, when did you start in geriatrics? How long ago?
Yeah, I started my fellowship in 1986. I finished my fellowship in 88.
And can I ask you, why did you choose geriatrics? Why did you go into it?
Probably for the reason a lot of people go into geriatrics, close relationship with grandparents, volunteering to work in a nursing home as a high school student. Just felt really good about being around old people and not having a problem with it.
And then decades of a storied career in geriatrics. And you wrote this article, which probably for geriatricians, they probably have a love-hate relationship with your title, which is the paradoxical decline of geriatric medicine as a profession. What prompted you to write this in JAMA?
Yeah, I'm going to give you the brief version.
Jerry asked us if we wanted the three-minute versus ten-minute. Alex is all, give the ten-minute. I'm going to give the three-minute, Jerry.
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Chapters
8 chapters
1
What is the focus of today’s episode and who are the guests?
0:01–6:15
2
Why did Jerry write the JAMA article on the paradoxical decline of geriatrics?
6:15–13:34
3
What evidence does the article present about the decline in the geriatrics profession?
13:34–20:34
4
How are geriatric fellowship numbers and the training pipeline changing?
20:34–26:02
5
What do recent surveys reveal about burnout and satisfaction among geriatricians?
26:02–32:10
6
Which advances and initiatives are driving optimism for the future of geriatrics?
32:10–36:53
7
What opportunities does Ryan see for geriatrics in the next one to five years?
36:53–43:21
8
How do the hosts conclude and where can listeners find more information?
43:21–51:37
Speakers
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