Transgender Health, Aging, and Advocacy: A Podcast with Noelle Marie Javier and Jace Flatt

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What is the focus of today’s episode and who are the guests?

Eric Widera 0:00
This episode of the Jerry Paul podcast is CME eligible.
Alex Smith 0:04
To claim credit, please go to the CME tab on jerrypal.org.
Eric Widera 0:09
Welcome to the Jerry Powell Podcast. This is Eric Guadera.
Alex Smith 0:12
This is Alex Smith. And
Eric Widera 0:14
Alex, who do we have with us today?
Alex Smith 0:16
We are delighted to welcome Jace Flatt, who goes by HeThey, who did his PhD, postdoc, and early faculty work at UCSF. Eric and I remember him from that time. And he is now at the University of Nevada, Las Vegas, where he is associate professor in the Department of Social and Behavioral Health. Jace, welcome to the Jerry Powell Podcast. Thank you
Jace Flatt 0:38
so much, Alex and Eric. It's nice to be here with you.
Alex Smith 0:40
And we're delighted to welcome Noelle Marie Javier, who goes by SheHer and is a geriatrician and palliative care doc, professor, newly minted, congratulations, and a clinician educator at Mount Sinai in New York City. Noelle Marie, welcome to the GeriPal podcast.
Noelle Marie Javier 0:57
Hi, everyone. Happy Pride. And thanks for the invitation, Alex and Eric. And great to meet Chase on here.
Eric Widera 1:04
So we're going to be talking about transgender health in older adults and those with serious illness. But before we go into that topic, who has a song request for Alex? I do. Noel Marie, what song do you have? Cyndi Lauper's True Colors. Why'd you choose this song?
Noelle Marie Javier 1:24
I think it really speaks a lot to my own personal journey, and I'm pretty sure a lot of trans and gender diverse individuals also resonate with. And it really speaks about our transition, celebrating our authentic selves, how society views us and how we view ourselves when we stand in front of a mirror.
Eric Widera 1:45
Wonderful. Thanks for picking that song. A little Cyndi Lauper, Alex.
Alex Smith 1:49
A little Cyndi Lauper. If you're listening on the Audio Only podcast, you get my son Kai on guitar. If you're watching on YouTube, you get me. Here's a little bit.
Unknown 2:10
You with the sad eyes Don't
Noelle Marie Javier 2:14
be discouraged, oh I
Unknown 2:17
realize It's hard to take courage In a world full of people You can lose
Noelle Marie Javier 2:26
sight
Unknown 2:27
of it all And the darkness inside you Makes you feel so small But I'll see your true colors shining through I'll see your true colors And that's why I love you So don't be afraid to let them show Your true colors, your true colors Are beautiful like a rainbow
Eric Widera 3:08
Thank you. Great
Alex Smith 3:10
song request. Noel Marie, thank you so much.
Eric Widera 3:14
Noel Marie, can I ask, because you mentioned your journey and the importance of that. How did you get interested in this topic? And can you tell us a little bit about your journey? Would that be okay?
Noelle Marie Javier 3:25
Yes, that's totally fine. And I'm happy to share my story. It all dates back to my time in the Philippines where I grew up and was born and raised. And by the age of five years old, I had already noticed that there was a discordance between how I was assigned at birth in terms of anatomy and how I identified myself. However, you know, I didn't really have the vocabulary at the time. And I also lived in a society that was very Catholic, that was very machismo, so to speak. And so I think that my growth and discovery of celebrating who I am as a woman of trans experience didn't really happen until when I came to New York City. This was like back in 2013 and I joined the faculty at the Icahn School of Medicine at Mount Sinai.
Noelle Marie Javier 4:13
And I think a big part of that journey was just having that right time, that right moment with the right network and support groups of individuals, including my family, to really lift me up and allow me to celebrate my authentic self. And And also of note, Eric and Alex, my transition was very public at Sinai. And in a way, I became like a poster child for living my truth in terms of being trans, having lived and embracing different intersectional identities, being an immigrant, woman of trans experience, identifying as a straight woman and as a professional.
Eric Widera 4:53
How is it public? Can you tell me about that?
Noelle Marie Javier 4:57
Yeah. So when I joined Sinai in 2013, I was in a different form at that time. And so when I had decided to socially, medically and surgically transition, I had to really sit down with members of the department and really did a lot of in-services. And a big part of that was sharing my personal story, because I truly believe that for people to be able to understand who I am as an individual, that it's

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