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Great Company with Jamie Laing

JASON DONOVAN on Dr*gs, Partying in the 90s & Why Having His Daughter Changed His Life

17 Dec 2025

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Chapter 1: How did Jason Donovan cope with fame at a young age?

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This episode contains conversations around substance abuse. If you're affected by anything you hear in this episode, please check the episode's description for a list of organizations who can help and support.

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11.185 - 34.808 Jason Donovan

coming up in this episode of Great Company. When we take substances, we're sort of putting a band-aid on pain. There's a story of you in the Viper Room. Viper Room, that's a true story. It was Kate Moss's 21st birthday party. I just wanted to crash out. My dreams came true when I was 20, 21, without a handbook how to navigate my way through what was happening to me.

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Consuming, so, three grams of cocaine a day, right? Did you nearly die?

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40.227 - 45.374 Jason Donovan

I'm Jason Donovan and we're in great company. Please welcome Mr. Jason Donovan.

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The whole Jason mania thing was outrageous. You couldn't go anywhere without his face on something. You were that peak of fame. When you and Kylie got married on screen, it was watched by 22 million people. That is like a royal wedding, but a fictional one.

62.598 - 66.744 Jason Donovan

Your relationship is owned by the world. And then you split up.

Chapter 2: What experiences led Jason Donovan to substance abuse?

67.064 - 75.282 Jason Donovan

That was a really tough, tough time. All they talk about is the wedding. Every time I get into a cab now is, how's Kylie?

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Were you in love with Kylie? You're overworked, you're burnt out, you're tired, you're doing eight shows a week and then it all at some point just comes crashing down because you can't cling on anymore.

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85.968 - 102.316 Jason Donovan

And I sort of didn't want to be that Peter Pan and blonde-haired, blue-eyed kid. I get shouted at from scaffolds. Objectified in a way. Correct. So I tried to really screw up the canvas. How do you find your true self?

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Fuck, that's a tough question.

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106.883 - 110.67 Jamie Laing

Hello, everyone. My name is Jamie Lang, and this is Great Company.

114.477 - 142.035 Jason Donovan

We recently got a cat. Oh, nice. Yeah, a cat in the house. We lost a cat this year, and I wasn't particularly happy about getting a new cat. Because you had killed the last one. Yeah. I killed with kindness. There's a great story about that one. Just really quickly, Pixie, we had for 18 years. And then two years ago, she just disappeared.

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And we realized that she'd been outside the front of the house and jumped into an Amazon truck. I'm not joking. I'm not fucking joking. And ended up, she was chipped, right? Yeah. So literally we were like, oh, my God, this cat's fucking gone. We're putting posters up, you know, the whole fucking, the sellotape, asking everybody around town. Got to the point it had gone. She'd gone.

172.675 - 204.705 Jason Donovan

Five months, Ange walks out the fucking house and goes, they've found her. I'm like, fuck, you are kidding, in Dagenham. And do you remember about a year ago that you had to have your animals chipped? It came into law. And this person that had been looking after Pixie in Dagenham, whoever she was, we never got to meet her. Laura's from Dagenham. Laura, was it you?

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Dagenham's a great part of town. Was it you, Laura? They even named a musical after the play. I love Dagenham. I had to get my satellite out and bloody pack a fucking, you know, suitcase just to go and pick the thing up. It literally took five hours return to get back from there. But you found Pexie? We found her, mate. But then Pexie died? Well, we found her.

Chapter 3: How did becoming a father change Jason Donovan's life?

303.219 - 333.215 Jason Donovan

Yeah, I was one of the first probably people in Australia in 1972. My parents split up. I really haven't got in still into the details as to why that happened. But my father got custody then. Do you personally know why that happened? Well, I mean... Both my parents are quite strong characters, you know, and no, I don't really know the fine print. No, I don't.

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333.796 - 365.159 Jason Donovan

Again, strong personalities, but they split up. Dad got custody of me and I ended up spending my time with him, you know, a lot of which was on sets, going to work. Wow. You know, he's probably the only person in my life that's been part of my life consistently for 57 years and recently just turned 90. My dad is an incredibly outrageously honest character.

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365.94 - 380.477 Jason Donovan

He's always kept fit, loves a drink, loves to tell the truth. In a harsh way? Yeah, sometimes. Yeah, yeah, that can be pretty tough. That's harsh growing up. It's tough growing up, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah. I faced a lot of stuff with that.

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Like what? Give me an example if you can.

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382.807 - 399.573 Jason Donovan

Well, I mean, he would jokingly always say, you got the fame and the money. And he said, I got the hair. Do you know what I mean? But I said to him once, Dad, I've managed to work the hair out. I've done that one. So I've always found a way around.

Chapter 4: What was Jason's relationship with Kylie Minogue like?

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But you look, Dad, if he's had a few drinks, we'll tend to go a little bit off piste, shall we say.

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Jason, do you have a relationship with your mum at all now?

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410.269 - 447.375 Jason Donovan

Yeah, I do. I do. It's had fractious times, but it's on a sort of a good keel now. I think, you know, I understand that she, you know, there's been – A lot of issues in the past. I think, and you will find this with family and kids, and there's sort of a, not a change in the guard, but a change in the generations where, you know, certain people, I'm the oldest. I'm the oldest.

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447.395 - 474.847 Jason Donovan

I'm the only one from my parents' marriage, but I have three stepsisters from my mother's subsequent marriage and one brother from my dad's subsequent marriage. that all the old problems tend to sort of disappear a little bit and your parents almost become your children. Yes, this is what happens. That is sort of what happens, not just psychologically but physically, you know.

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475.247 - 484.498 Jason Donovan

Funny enough, my grandmother, a lady called Joan, who was my mum's mother, played a big part in my upbringing.

484.478 - 485.059 Jamie Laing

Really?

485.079 - 511.883 Jason Donovan

Yeah. Even though my mother and I didn't see a lot of each other. You know, it's difficult. She started another life with someone else, lived in a different part of town in Melbourne. But in the same town? In the same town, yeah. Wow. Yeah. I mean, a lot of people would say – You know, there's issues that probably haven't been resolved as a result of particularly maybe a mum leaving.

512.384 - 523.781 Jason Donovan

I would like to think that both parents are sort of equal as particularly. We're living in a generation when that is more prevalent than it's ever been and great, fucking great for that.

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Yeah.

Chapter 5: What challenges does Jason face with aging in the public eye?

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And we'd drive to, you know, drive to set because you have to shoot – Two or three scenes in the evening and the company that he worked for, Crawford's, gave him a lot of scope to be able to look after me. They recognised that Dad was a single parent. But I did a lot of shows in my teens. Then it came to my late teens and I got an audition for this new show called Neighbours. So I went along.

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619.761 - 625.869 Jason Donovan

I've seen pictures of the audition. I went on a tram, went to my gran's workplace.

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Do you remember it?

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626.61 - 645.581 Jason Donovan

I remember it very well. Went in there, went and auditioned for a character called Danny Ramsey. There were two households. There was the Robinsons and the Ramsey household. I got the part. I was 17 years old. I went to the school. The agent rang up, my dad's agent. I inherited my dad's agent, classic.

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646.443 - 670.857 Jason Donovan

And Gary Stewart rang up and said, look, you've got the part, you know, but I think you're going to have to leave school. I was in my second last year of school. I went... And you were good in school? I was okay. I was a good worker. I was a good worker. Not really academic. But had a good work ethic. But I had a good work ethic. So I always got through. Sporty? Math. I was shit at maths.

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Not really sporty because I was the Aussie rules. They're too fucking, you know, too blokey. Yeah. And I was always, with the cricket, I was always scared of the hard ball. Do you know what I mean? Anyway, I went to the school to see whether I should leave school and all the teachers unanimously said, go. Are you serious? This is an opportunity. Yeah, they all said go. And I went to Dad.

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I said, what do I do? And Dad said, don't do it. Turn it down. He said, it'll come around again. And I went, fuck. And I rang up the agent and I said, I'm going to say no. I'm going to say no. And I said no. Neighbours got launched at Channel 7 in Australia in about 1984 and it lasted six months. It crashed. It got axed. And I thought, well, I made the right decision, didn't I?

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Because if I'd gone on that journey, I wouldn't have gone back to school and that was my dad's argument. Finish your 12 years of school. Get it done. Then you can do whatever you want. You can do whatever you want, yeah. So, you know, I'm coming up to my HSC, your A-level last year, exams. It must have been July, August.

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I get a phone call from my agent saying Neighbours has been recommissioned and a new network, Channel 10, and they want you to go and audition for a character called Scott Robinson. Would you be up for it? I said, sure. And that's what I did. And I got the part. I literally walked from my last exam into – what now is, you know, sort of being the rest of my life.

Chapter 6: How did Jason Donovan's upbringing influence his career?

1032.335 - 1053.154 Jason Donovan

Yeah, I mean, it's invasive. It's claustrophobic. You know, on Notting Hill, you know, when you've got 30 people on a corner outside Portobello Road, two houses up from you for four years, camped outside your house and you're watching you going in and out of your house. It's sort of, you know, that becomes very strange.

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1054.817 - 1057.101 Unknown

That's what happened, Jason. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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1057.081 - 1085.991 Jason Donovan

You had people. People camped outside the house. It's sort of. 30 people to get photos. Yeah. I mean, you know, that wouldn't always be that big. But, you know, that was an era where fans for me would quite respectfully, though, I always felt, you know, keep a distance but certainly be in my radar as I would go to Tom's when it was down in Westbourne Grove. Was it scary? Yeah.

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1086.14 - 1116.843 Jason Donovan

Um, well, I mean, I, you know, I sort of exploded as, as is quite well documented, you know, post the Palladium. Um, and, um, When that fame sort of started to happen again in 1990, unexpectedly, eight shows a week, I was trapped a little bit. I sort of, that's when I started to get into drugs quite a bit to sort of, you know, just escape.

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You experienced this fame in Neighbours. You're in the UK and you go and do Joseph and Technico Dreamcoat at the Palladium. And you're saying to me that you felt trapped and you're not happy.

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I think I've just overworked.

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Really?

1132.794 - 1146.336 Jason Donovan

I've been going since 85, 86. You know, and I'd kept pretty much on the – I kept pretty much focused, you know. Because that work ethic within you, just keep going, keep going, keep going.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah, keep going.

Chapter 7: What lessons did Jason learn from his struggles with addiction?

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Well, it's sort of fair if people are making laws against stuff and not representing their true beliefs. I mean, you've got to want to do that. You can't change. But I don't think it was getting the traction that, that they wanted. And so they switched to celebrities. It started in New York with Tom Selleck, Whitney Houston, Tom Cruise, and then came across to the UK.

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1387.588 - 1410.915 Jason Donovan

And at that time I was in Joseph Technicolored coats, the colors of LGBT, you know, I was blonde head, blue eyed, good looking boy, palladium. And what they did was they strategically took a picture of me in a white T-shirt that I'd posed many years ago and superimposed on the front, queer as fuck, out.

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Put this poster campaign, as they did to Tom Selleck and Whitney Houston, in strategic places in New York and LA where journalists would see the poster, go back to their desks and write about it.

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1429.816 - 1462.356 Jason Donovan

same thing happened in the uk but i was the poster boy for that campaign and i didn't pose with those pictures i didn't pose with the words queer and written on my t-shirt out um but the face the tabloids didn't because they knew it was litigious the face in their bold brazen cool way decided to report on this event And at that point I think the rumours had sort of gone too far.

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1462.756 - 1492.083 Jason Donovan

I felt it was going too far. And they didn't ask for my opinion when they presented. They didn't ask for me to add to the articles. I probably think they would have known my reaction. And they printed instead. Now, it was not the issue about homosexuality. I don't care if you're gay, straight, black, white, whatever the fuck. I've grown up in theatre and I'm an actor and I'm love, baby, love.

Chapter 8: What advice does Jason Donovan give about authenticity and self-acceptance?

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The suggestion that I was lying about myself was where it came down to. I'm not lying about myself. I wasn't lying. And that's very unfair. It's not the way I choose, you know, and that's where I went, no, that's not right. Jamie, honestly, it's part of almost like my CV. Is it something I'm proud of to, you know, have done? Not really. Yeah. Was it the decision I made? Yes, it was.

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1522.829 - 1541.759 Jason Donovan

You know, I was the chairman of the board. You know, I had to, you know, as I've done since I was 18, I've had to make fucking decisions. You know, that some people at 45, 50, 60, 80 wouldn't have to make. And I've had to make decisions sometimes. With no experience. No experience. And you'll find this with your kids.

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1542.38 - 1560.529 Jason Donovan

You'll find you're going to have to make some decisions that there's no real rule book on. Um, you know, maybe management wise, maybe we could have thought a little bit more about it, but I found myself in the high court in this moment and I had to go through with it and for the right intentions.

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1560.769 - 1581.295 Jason Donovan

And maybe in a way, sorry, just to, just to say, maybe in a way, as I found along that journey, I was actually speaking up for those people that didn't want to be outed, but That wanted to be who they wanted to be. You don't have to be told you have to be something just because... No, and do you know what is so interesting?

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It's not right. And do you know what? When someone is making lies about you, whatever it is, it's not about anything in particular. When it's making lies about you, that is upsetting. But I also love the fact that you're saying you're owning your mistakes, and I think that's really strong. And also, I always think the hardest thing, right? The hardest thing about life...

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is it's not a dress rehearsal. We're going at it, right? That's what we're doing. We're going at it and we're going to make mistakes along the way. But the mistakes that you were making is in front of the world. And so if you make mistakes or say the right thing or do the right wrong or right thing or whatever it is, kind of everyone has an opinion. And that's tough.

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When you found drugs, why do you think drugs helped you at that point?

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Yeah.

1626.123 - 1647.449 Jason Donovan

Well, I mean, you've got to go back a little bit. I never drunk until I was in my 30s at all. Did you not? No, no, no. I didn't touch alcohol until my 30s because I watched my dad and I thought he was a fucking dick, you know, and because he was my dad and I only lived with him and, you know, dad, you know, didn't smoke weed or do anything like that.

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