S3 | Part Two | Finding Heidi: Endgame, Episode Eight - Tragedy
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What shocking update opens the episode about James Turner’s death?
on the last episode of Guilt. The car located by police, it was Heidi and her barns, but I believe what he saw that day was the license plate being removed from the bull bar because it had to be in order to access the bull bar, in order to remove the bull bar.
That was the old man's work wagon, was a Subaru station wagon, like it was a four-wheel drive. As far as the Swedes go, he didn't mention fuck all about them to me at all, mate. It was just the fact that he bought that set of bull bars off the brother. You know, and he didn't say it was from the Swedes, he said it's from fucking Tamahere.
I said to him, I put him with a question, I said, mate, did you really deal to those Swedes, brother?
And when he got out of the car, he went, just tell me one thing, where is she? He knew exactly who I was talking about.
I know shit that nobody wants to come out in the open. And of all of us, I know it all.
From Brevity Studios, I'm Ryan Wolfe. And this is guilt. That's got to be her. I'm just, I just feel like that's her.
James is dead. James Turner is dead. I got a phone call this morning on my phone. James Turner. And I was like, oh, I haven't heard from him in a while. And I thought, I wonder what this could be. And I've been meaning to give him a call as well, so... Anyway, I answered it normally expecting to hear the same like, hello, Cobber, something like that. But it wasn't James. It was his sister, Frankie. And she simply just said, hey, Ryan, James died this morning. yeah uh he's been sick for a long time and the whole time i've known him he's cbd and the last time i saw him he seemed he seemed good i thought he hadn't deteriorated in in sort of two years uh but think it was complications of pneumonia or something and so this morning she was sort of just going through his phone and just calling a few friends that she that he had that she thought might care and i guess i made that list um you know it's a strange thing with james because
You know, we did build a friendship of sorts over the last few years. And, you know, he's a man that was feared by many and revered by some. You know, I just knew the man that I knew now, and he seemed like a good man today. I know he's done a lot of bad stuff, but how bad, I don't know. Did James know something more? Was James involved? Did he take some extra thing to his grave with him? I guess I'll never know. But I hope that, you know, I feel that he was trying to do the right thing. And, you know, I hope that wherever he is right now, if he's standing being judged in front of the pearly gates, then I hope that I hope that those things he did in those last couple years, the work he did with me, I hope that maybe holds him in good stead wherever he is.
Yeah. Now it's time to tell the whole story. As far as I know, I was the only person to ever interview James. And even more importantly, I was the only person to ever interview him on film. It's early December 2025, and I've just received the phone call from Frankie, James' sister, that he's dead. And it's come as a shock. The last time I saw him, he looked good. Well, as good as you can when you're hooked 24-7 to an oxygen tank. As I sit in my office stunned, my thoughts are a confusing sense of loss as to James' passing. What was our relationship? Was it simply business? Was he a witness? A suspect? Or was it friendship? Did I get too close? But then my thoughts shift to a feeling of guilt. that perhaps I didn't ask the right questions.
Did I do enough? And my biggest concern, if he really did know more, did he take it to the grave with him? Has the chance of the truth died this day? The last time I spoke with James, we were waiting for the police to visit and interview him regarding the blonde hair he claims to have seen in the dunes. Did that interview actually take place before his death? Is it on the official record? For Frankie, this time is also a difficult and confusing moment. I believe her relationship with her brother has always been a complex one. The last time I saw Frankie, and in fact the only time I've met her in person, despite much correspondence via phone and message, I actually interviewed both her and James.
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Chapters
4 chapters
1
What shocking update opens the episode about James Turner’s death?
0:05–9:05
2
How did the host describe his relationship and last contact with James Turner?
9:05–27:23
3
What ethical and legal concerns delayed releasing Frankie's interview?
27:23–34:49
4
What childhood trauma and medical history does Frankie reveal about herself?
34:49–40:32
Speakers
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